Vaccine Apologist Flips - Gets Fired

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FULL MEASURE: January 6, 2019 - The Vaccination Debate

She quit CBS and went independent when they refused to publish a story showing in certain cases vaccines cause autism.

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daftcunt's picture

One person saying "I changed my mind" is not proof.

 

If there is evidence for this (which may very well be) there should be a (t least 1) study published via the appropriate channels.  Has Zimmerman or one of his peers done this? If so, and it is virtually impossible to be ignored, what did the peer review process say and why is it ignored?

Generally ASD is present in about 1% of the population, vaccinated or not. The problem is to identify the vaccine as the direct cause and prove that "not vaccinating" would have prevented the disease.

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sato's picture

and at very least provide a hypothesis for how vaccines cause autism.

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skeptoid's picture

I think it's pretty obvious that the man is not permitted to say anything at all beyond the affidavit. On the instructions of his lawyer.

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backdraft's picture
Beta Tester

My cousin got a vaccination during the bird flu craze. She got some kind of neurological disease from it. Very similar to MS. 

If a flu shot can do it, why not regular vaccinations. I guess her case was super rare, but it does happen. 

The most common thing people got from it was narcolepsy. At least they admitted that one.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcolepsy-flu.html

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daftcunt's picture

The side effects of the MMR vaccine appear to be understood. If there is new evidence for a link to ADS it needs to be researched.

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Dude's picture

So children turning crazy after a shot is not enough evidence?

What kind of evidence would you want?

You can not simulate these childrens body's before they got the shot, and then inject those body's to proove it.

Just folow the experts that come clean they don't earn from this shit.

If you pull everything in doubt well then you shouldent believe anything anymore because there is always more to a story that is later found out.

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sato's picture

no it's not. my car got stolen right after the neighbors got a dog. correlation is not causation.

the kind of evidence needed is to show how one or many ingredients of a vaccine cause symptoms. vaccines have been around for decades, and new vaccines have been found to cause side effects and have swiftly been taken out of circulation. it is regularly done so to claim it's being ignored is just ridiculous.

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Dude's picture

Dude, they don't even know how the brain works, you have to work with what you got, then you explain how they could go about do this?

I never said it is ignored, but you guy's stated that it needed proof, what kind of proof?

a hypothesis? And then it is so, or that is what makes you believe?

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skeptoid's picture

I worked with someone who bragged about how they were going to give their first child all the vaccines plus optional ones just to show that there's nothing to fear. Her child developed autism. Yes, awkward. She actually was still maintaining last I heard that it was a tragic coincidence. No one believes me when I tell this story - there are thousands just like it, and, among them are a significant percentage still telling themselves that it's just a coincidence and they can still trust the liars.

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daftcunt's picture

To the conspiracy theorists and those that don't understand the mechanisms:

 

Signs of ADS develop and are diagnosed co-inciding with the time the MMR jab is given.

About 1% of the population develop some form of ADS, regardless of whether they are vaccinated ot not. 

 

Hence it is to be expected that if autism is diagnosed it will be AFTER the jab.

 

Of course the "got the jab, then developed autism hence the jab is responsible" argument* is easy to follow for, and seems to make sense to, the simple minded and suspicious that don't like to do research outside their biased sources.

 

A statement of a senior representative may have to be taken seriously but of course there is always the chance of other causes for him being disgruntled.   

 

* it's like saying "got drunk and then got pregnant hence alcohol increases fertility"

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CountMeOut's picture

Conspiracy theorists are, in most cases, people who do not understand the underlying mechanisms. 

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daftcunt's picture

Most of those that don't understand the underlying mechanisms are simply uninformed and/or gullible, the rest don't know or admit they are conspiracy theorists.

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backdraft's picture
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ADS symptoms usually appear during the first two years of life.

Giving vaccinations after the age of 2 would be a good start to filter out effectively if it's the vaccines or naturally occurring.

 

The way big pharma is lobbying and pushing money, it wouldn't surprise me the slightest if they were trying to cover this and a ton of other shit. The sad fact is money talks whether it's politics or science.     

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daftcunt's picture

"Giving vaccinations after the age of 2 ..." I think it's 3 years anyway but the vacinati0on would not be very effective if you do this.

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