Unity rally in Moscow

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backdraft's picture
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Still not sure on which side you stand on. 

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I don't really think any further clarification is necessary, he supports putin, this invasion and mass murder and other war crimes that come with it!

 

This propaganda stunt would be hillarious if it weren't for all the innocent people killed.

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That's kinda the joke. He just doesn't have the balls to spell it out when asked.

Spineless in more than one way.

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lol. cope.

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These people certainly are trying to.

 

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You are talking to a chinese millennial, you should not expect to much.

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don't hide behind those people. You cope.

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You're just my entertainment / curiosity how one rationalizes things. Or in this case, can't.  

These people actually have to cope with Putins actions.   

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you need to cope

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backdraft's picture
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With your spinelessness?

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with your dirt league trolling abilities

being a whiney shitlib isn't a good look & it's not even working

double fail

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I don't even have to try.

All I need to do is ask a simple question and you get all bent outta shape. 

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danman's picture
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add delusional to the list.

so much fail in one thread.

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go to sleep and calm down

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Hey, I get it, comin from the American stand point, cant really criticize, we did the same, back in 1840's! Cant imagine doing that today and the world being fine with the USA taking the state of Texas again from Mexico. BUT suffer the consequences of being the outcast of the world and only friends with China. 

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Russia has many more friends than just China

"the world" in western propaganda terms just means the west/global north.

green countries are those who've sanctioned Russia (what western propaganda often calls "the world") - look at all that grey area. So much room for activities :D

 

this year will be rough for Russia's economy but after this they'll be free from the US-centered financial (blackmail) system. Next year could be quite good for Russia, not so much for the west tho. These commodity price hikes, counter sanctions & other issues are likely to cause problems in western economies.

 

Russia's freeing itself from the claws of western imperialism & in that respect I'm happy for them. It's also weakening US global economic hegemony & that's great for everyone... with the exception of Western Europe.

 

Another positive outcome is NATO's nazi bois are getting smoked, incl by Chechen special forces >: )

 

/rant

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Ever heard the expression "The enemy of my enemy is sometimes my friend"? There are a lot of countries that do not like China very much and if it comes down to it I dont think they would be supporting either. 

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Saying "not many countries like China" is kinda ridiculous imo. China has the largest trade network in the world & business is business. The only countries who line up against China politically & sometimes even economically/technologically are those who want to (or US pressures them to) try & slow down China's rise because it rubs up against what they perceive their interests to be. US has the goal of global hegemony & as policy doesn't tolerate any near-peer rivals. This is why anglo media blankets the airwaves with anti-China propaganda. This bullshit smear campaign does have some effect on public opinion but public opinion doesn't count for shit. The opinions of decision makers - IE economic/business interests are what matters.

 

 

even with the immense propaganda power of the US & the pathetic excuse for foreign propaganda coming out of China, the US is still seen as the biggest threat to the world in most countries. US is both the biggest threat to world peace & the biggest threat to their domestic politics in the eyes of a majority of countries.

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China great, America bad, we know all that you think by now, why still bother, if you don't like ppl's oppinions why hang out with them?

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Trading with someone is completely different than helping them with a war. Most of China's neighbors hate them and are afraid of China's expansionist ambitions. The USA has a lot more bases around China than China has around the USA. 

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"Most of China's neighbors hate them and are afraid of China's expansionist ambitions"

this is completely untrue, why do you talk such shit?

 

"Trading with someone is completely different than helping them with a war"

not really. They're more related than what you seem to assume about public opinion.

economic ties lead to political ties. The term "soft power" gets thrown around a lot but many people, especially westerners, assume it means public image (in western propaganda sphere). It doesn't mean this at all. Economic ties are the main form of soft power & China's soft power is arguably the strongest in the world with US a close 2nd & then a large gap to #3. Nobody wants to create real hostility with their largest trading partner. Think about it for more than 2 seconds.

 

"The USA has a lot more bases around China than China has around the USA"

yeah, the US needs to fuck off back to its side of the Pacific.

if you think those bases are useful in a US-China war you're sadly mistaken. Anything West of Wake Island is well within reach of China's short & medium range missiles, of which they have many.

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