ukraines got fighter aircrafts

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#Ukraine️ Now Has #NATO Fighter Jets. #Pentagon Confirms. RAW CLIP

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220420-ukraine-receives-fighter-planes-parts-to-bolster-air-force-pentagon

 

The announcement comes a week after US President Joe Biden unveiled an $800 million military aid package for Kyiv, including heavier equipment such as howitzers, as fighting escalates in eastern Ukraine.

The moves indicate a change in attitude in the West, which had initially refused to provide Ukraine with heavy armaments to avoid action Russia could consider direct involvement in the conflict.

Ukrainian forces "right now have available to them more fixed-wing fighter aircraft than they did two weeks ago," Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters on Tuesday.

"Without getting into what other nations are providing, they (Ukrainian forces) have received additional platforms and parts to be able to increase their fleet size," he said.

Kirby did not specify the type of aircraft delivered to the Ukrainian military, which had been pleading for warplanes for weeks, but suggested that they were Russian-made.

"Other nations who have experience with those kinds of aircraft have been able to help them get more aircraft up and running," Kirby said.

He underscored that while the United States had helped with the shipment of some parts, it had "not transported whole aircraft."

Kyiv has asked its Western partners to provide MiG-29 fighter jets that its pilots already know how to fly, and which a handful of Eastern European countries have.

A possible transfer of such aircraft from Poland was discussed in early March, before the United States poured cold water on the plan, fearing Russia would see it as direct engagement by NATO in the war.

The United States and the European Union announced Tuesday they would continue sending aid to Ukraine.

Biden met via video call with the leaders of France, Britain, Germany, Romania, Poland, Italy, Canada, Japan and the European Commission.

They reached a "broad consensus on the need to increase pressure on the Kremlin," the Italian government said.

In particular, the leaders reaffirmed their commitment to "ongoing provision of security, economic, and humanitarian assistance," White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

Speaking on his visit this month to Kyiv, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson "underscored the critical need for further military support to Ukraine in the face of a major Russian offensive in the Donbas and ongoing attacks elsewhere," Downing Street said.

The first shipments of the latest US military aid package have already arrived at Ukraine's borders, with US media reporting Tuesday that Washington was already working to approve another $800 million package for Kyiv.

NATO soldiers are slated to train their Ukrainian counterparts to use the newly delivered howitzers.

While the handling of US howitzers is not fundamentally different to that of the howitzers the Ukrainian military has already used, those Washington has sent use 155-millimeter shells -- common in NATO countries -- while Ukraine still uses Russian-made 152-millimeter shells.

Russia has formally complained to the United States over its military aid to Ukraine, warning of "unpredictable consequences" if shipments of advanced weaponry go forward, US media reported last week.

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UNITED NATIONS, April 20. /TASS/. The Russian armed forces will destroy the outdated military equipment, supplied to Ukraine by the West, Russian First Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Dmitry Polyansky said.
"NATO’s Eastern European members also seem satisfied. They no longer have to think how to get rid of obsolete Soviet-era weapons," he told the UN Security Council session on Ukraine on Tuesday.
"While promising to deliver to Ukraine brand new NATO-grade equipment, they readily dispatch specimens that often fail to either shoot or move, knowing that Russian forces would "grind" this scrap metal, saving them trouble with disposal,"

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MOSCOW, April 14. /TASS/. A fire and subsequent broadside munitions blast have done serious damage to the Moskva missile cruiser of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the crew was evacuated, the Russian defense ministry said on Thursday.

"A fire onboard the Mosvka missile cruiser caused a blast of the broadside munitions. The ship received serious damage. The crew was evacuated," the ministry said, adding that a probe in underway.

The Moskva, the Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship, is the head vessel of Project 1164 Atlant. It was put into operation as the Slava in 1983 and received its current name in 1996. The ship is equipped with 16 P-1000 Vulkan missile launcers.

 

crew was evactuated but they seem short about 300 crew members. is TASS an editorial part of state media?

 

 

 

pretty sure nato hasn't sent anything. america sending stuff isn't nato, canada sending stuff isn't nato. when you read articles that say stuff like nato allies/members are sending x.... that means not nato cause if it was nato, they'd say nato sending x. you understand the difference?

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Thanks to Russia we will have a whole generation making machines of war again.

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whm2whm3

when did you ever stop?

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Yeah, this aint no Iraq or even Vietnam level shit. The world is preparing for WW3. Even if it doesnt happen every fucking govt out there is going to be preparing for it.

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it's already kinda started .. either WW2.5 or Cold War 2 or both. The western economic blackballing of Russia is a big reconfigutation that puts some things into question. The carving up of Ukraine by a non-NATO state puts the UN framework into question. West still has the clout to block the recognition of border changes which could leave part of Ukraine in limbo for some time.

I closely follow developments around Taiwan and practically all the commentators who study it say there's very high likelihood of conflict there this decade. RAND Corp says US needs to make it happen in the next few years or so otherwise Chin'as too stronk. I'm not convinced Beijing & Teipei will get played by the yanks but it's possible. And the Chinese won't back down an inch in terms of allowing Taiwan to be carved off. Possibly the best hope we have is for China to build their navy ASAP so US won't even try for a direct conflict there.

Once Taiwan is secure & US can't block Malacca Strait I think US' global hegemonic ambition is over & we can breathe a bit easier. These next 2 decades could get spicy as US finally acknowledges that its "unipolar moment" is finished (it ended already but they haven't admitted it).

/rant

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