Imagine branding yourself as a culture war commentator, not even knowing what Three Arrows means & arguing that anyone who uses it is a terrorist because Antifa & that they should be censored.
fallacy of composition
the error of assuming that what is true of a member of a group is true for the group as a whole.
>> Three Arrows video about Jordan Peterson not understanding Nazi ideology
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(Old Spike)
no offence to you damonjones but i really dont care about this shit..i appreciate any uploads but this is just a horrible reflection of society now that i try to avoid...
(Old Spike)
i get that, i just don't watch and don't comment on videos i have no interest in. pretty easy to just do nothing and let different people watch different things.
(Old Spike)
i didnt watch it all but i first had to watch some of it to understand what the video was about and gauge whether or not i have an interest in it ..the comment was actually stating something that i do care about if you understood that..the way society has gone..
(Old Spike)
Yeah the culture war stuff is pretty annoying, especially with those obnoxious thumbnails.
(Old Spike)
dude is making his own logical fallacy. just because a symbol meant something in the past doesn't mean it means the same thing today
your fallacy of composition is also on show here. there is no central coordination of antifa. some people who call themselves affiliated use the three arrows symbol, some don't, and among all of those not everyone is using it to mean the same thing.
(Old Spike)
Not all people who use that symbol are Antifa. That's the point that Tim (and you, it seems) missed.
(Old Spike)
I agree in that if 4chan can make the okay hand symbol a white power gesture and that's stupid then this is also by the same reasoning stupid. I don't think people understand that Tim is being somewhat facetious here in pointing out that you reap what you sow and I don't entirely agree because there's element of pettiness in this one.
(Old Spike)
how is he pointing out what you reap is what you sow when it comes to Dan Arrows?
or do you mean someone else?
(Old Spike)
When you weaponize censorship based on claimed association of symbology it affects everyone in a heavy-handed and inprecise manner, not just the original complainant and targeted individual or group.
(Old Spike)
It's really hard to follow your logic because you're being so vague.
The only person here who seems to advocate for censorship based on symbolism is Tim Pool. Does Tim deserve flak for this or do you mean something else?
(Old Spike)
You may be having trouble following my logic because it's based on principle. The far left has been engaged and has been manipulated into engaging in censorship based on symbology. Now it is come back and hit them. This is giving Tim a certain level of schadenfreude. I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment.
(Old Spike)
So how does this relate to Dan Arrows? Do you consider him far left?
(Old Spike)
The three arrows symbol is associated with criminal thugs designated as terrorists by multiple law enfocement agencies and in response to ensuring such symbology is not associated with their platform they have censored this guy you like Dan Arrows because he uses the same symbol. What you and this silly guy in the video above don't seem to understand is that the context of the symbol and any attempt to correct its malignment have been rendered irrelevant by the new rule firmly established by 4chan - brand a symbol hateful and it doesn't matter who uses it and/or for what reason - they can be punished/censored by private platforms. They have to protect their bottom line and keep subscribers from leaving their platform because they feel too offended and abused. It's a financial thing - it's nothing personal.
(Old Spike)
designated as terrorists by multiple law enfocement agencies
which agencies?
new rule firmly established by 4chan
lol. But seriously, which agencies designated (I assume Antifa) as a terry org?
(Long Spike)
laura ingraham, an anonymous person who started a petition, the right wing and the right wing that call themselves centrist
(Old Spike)
They've been publicly classified as a terry org by the DHS in New Jersey and articles going back prior to 2017 have been reporting internal DHS and FBI analyses referring to their activities as "domenstic terrorist violence". This was back at the beginning of Trump's term and in the reports they blame trump for the emergence of the new terry group, as the MSM does. But brain-panning Andy Ngo moved the goalposts a few notches too far, and the frog jumped in the pot. So there has to be a response. Don't worry when all of this dies down your friend Dan will be fine and within a few years we'll be talking about how many have died on both sides and tallying it that way instead of just talking about who's been killed by a schizophrenic anti-semite vs. who just got a brain hemmorhage.
(Old Spike)
You never answered my q - Do you consider Dan Arrows "far left"?
They've been publicly classified as a terry org by the DHS in New Jersey
source? ... primary source, not an article citing documents that Politico has seen. IE. something ending in .gov
Here's what I found in looking up DHS reports on domestic terrorism - Antifa has been mentioned on just one of the reports & only in relation to Charlottesville, not in the context of being a domestic terry org. It's in the report titled Domestic Terrorism: An Overview [August 21, 2017] -> here
1 more q - if Antifa have been designated as a terry org, why do you think the NYPD Commissioner is calling on the FBI to designate Antifa as a terry org? [link]
(Old Spike)
He wants them publicly rather than privately designated that way. When you go public with the designation things move to a whole new level - that's when those who proudly wear the badge start to get overtly purged. Most who wear it will sink into the shadows until the firestorm subsides. Leftists have begun denouncing antifa more forcefully as Ngo's lawyer begins her lawsuit rampage.
New Jersey DHS reporting and warnings about the black-clad-cosplay-thug-larping arm of the disorganized identitarian authoritarian left is ongoing - almost weekly. Here's a good rundown - you're probably not finding what you're looking for because you're searching on antifa and not "anarchist extremists" which brings you the results those who track domestic terries are focused on. These people are very precise Danman - they're not messing around and they like to use any group they can to justify increasing the monitoring and security state. See all those symbols and flags at that link? If the current snowball trend continues of the left denouncing antifa out of fear of reputational damage watch anyone who flies those colours or flags get fucked with hard. It's a whole new world since 9/11 and these anarchist extremists, right-wing extremists, and frankly the less violent ideology-spewing identitarians on the left and right, serve an important function for the authoritarian state - critical really.
Another reason I support Tulsi - she opposes identitarianism. Oh shit, and I almost forgot - I'm not familiar with Dan Arrows. Tim seems to like his content - said his channel was pretty good.
(Old Spike)
You're not familiar with Dan Arrows but you claim that the three arrows symbol is associated with terrorism because Tim Pool, Antifa & 4chan.
There's a link in the description that I recommend you watch. It might be a tough watch given how you are about JP but diversifying your content consumption is healthy & when it comes to history it's best to listen to people who know what they're talking about.
(Old Spike)
I followed your link. You're not comprehending, again I think because the idea of a principle-based mode of being is something you reject. My impression is that you're more of a rule-based guy but I don't know for sure. I'm not claiming anything. Being familiar with Dan Arrows and giving hard proof that antifa is now associated with terrorism by the department of homeland security, and FBI, and have been for some time both privately and publicly (in the case of the New Jersey DHS) are not related issues. Tim seems to like Dan Arrows' content - as seems often the case you don't understand Tim's point. Watch the genuinely principled voices of the left that you admire be silenced as Tim Pool predicted would happen and be baffled as I watch and comment - this weekend I have deadlines to meet. Yesterday was a 12-hour marathon getting these health standards put together - my boss left the company in April and I'm stuck with a lot of his shit now so no time for Dan Arrows. Sorry. I'm sure he's a great guy.
(Old Spike)
> The three arrows symbol is associated with criminal thugs designated as terrorists by multiple law enfocement agencies
> I'm not claiming anything
Pick one
(Old Spike)
Two - FBI and DHS. If those entities designate your activities as "domenstic terrorist activities" and one of them publicly designates antifa's larping-branch as terroritists that's all I can report to you. I can show you links where they discuss on almost a weekly basis trigger points occurring in their various jurisdictions. Hey dude I'm just telling you what's going on because you seem to struggle with the old Google-Fu. Is there anything else I can help you with?
(Long Spike)
i'd like to see sources. specifically ones that have statements from the fbi and dhs where they state themselves. that antifa/three arrows activities are "domestic terrorist activities". not sources of tv hosts/youtuber/wannabe news talking about how the activities could/should/would/possibly be "domestic terrorist activities" or how they heard it from a confiidential source inside the fbi or dhs.
(Old Spike)
Credible sources? From the biastoid?
(Old Spike)
So Tim is an idiot?
Why don't you tell us something new.......