The tic-tac incident

"It would be like traveling instellar distances to watch children play in a bath tub." I agree that there's nothing about the Tic Tac UFO incident that gives significant weight to the alien visitation hypothesis, but statements like these are the height of arrogance. We don't know how aliens see the universe or ourselves - he is assuming aliens would be much more intelligent versions of ourselves. Why? I don't assume that, nor do I assume if aliens had the capacity to travel here that would mean they are as we are to dogs or insects. Such statements sit atop a flimsly house built from a deck of assumptions. 

Once again, this is not "another" opinion but the same opinion from the same person posted again by yourself. I can post three or four different opinions on these videos, including skeptical analysis much better than this. When I watch these videos, I keep waiting for this guy to get to something interesting and he never does. His shallow understanding of the subject matter and the "community" he thinks he's targeting causes him to mistate himself repeatedly. Like right now I'm at 7 minutes and it's just poorly edited sound effects and music with sardonic inflection talking about infrared, stating obvious things as he goes.

So now I have to fast forward to the point where he addresses what he's asserting here by implication although he's too cowardly to do it explicitly - that Commander Fraver and his wingmates, and another flight and their wingmates, a dozen or so personnel on a AC-3, and on and on, all who saw it with they their eyes up close, are lying or insane. This  was confirmed by Fraver by eye and then later captured on high resolution taken by his wingmate (maybe his wingmate filmed a bird or a jet, or something else entirely - that's a possibility, although Fraver says in the hi-res cut it's well-defined tic tac and it's exactly what he saw). Fraver and his flight engaged in a turning maneuver with the craft. The craft flew directly in front of Fraver's craft. Fraver's female copilot was apparently traumatized by the experience according to the full-length version of the vid below.

We're at 10 minutes and he still hasn't addressed the only thing that matters - it's all aliens and whatever he thinks is "Ufology". Will fast-forward to see if he addresses the evidence - OMG at around 30:20 Fraver is sitting there giving his testamony and among the many hypotheses put forth he mentions alien visitation and this idiot responds immediately "Or maybe the pod jostled". Fraver didn't view the object through a display or capture it on a pod - he engaged the object along with his wingmates by eye - visual contact. It was a follow-up flight that captured the video, and there is a hi-res version of that capture apparently that isn't being released (Fraver again- remember none of these vids were originally cleared for release except via questionable loophole). It's as if this guy didn't listen to the pilot testimony - all he does is talk about infrared and aliens. This is awful Daft Cunt - you need to stop admiring this guy he's lol likely half the reason you are so poor at objective reasoning.

Let me know if there's a timecode in here somewhere where this guy addresses the actual event and pilot testimony. And, LOL, I'm sorry dude but this guy is just batshit terrified of aliens - even within ufology you'd be hard pressed to find obsession at this guy's level holy shit! 

Again, like I said in the other thread, the only thing that matters here - what makes this different - is the testimony of the pilots regarding the encounter and its official sanction in terms of the Pentagon unofficially first and then this month officially confirming the video is authentic. The video and testimony can be examined as two completely separate artifacts regardless of what the Pentagon or Fraver say, but then you're wading into "this is a gov psy-op" or "Fraver and his cohorts are lying sociopaths" territory and I'm not really seeing that here.  I'm going to post the testimony here for you again. Last time you hilariously said "The pilot said he doesn't know what it is" and therefore "anything would be a wild guess." LOL Yes Daft Cunt it's okay just because the experience these pilots had was almost certainly real doesn't mean ergo aliens are visiting. Yes there are several clues in this testimony pointing strongly towards the man-made hypothesis. In this discussion I'm trying to get to a place where we can talk about that hypothesis, but it's gotta be baby steps with you. That CAP station thing? There's a lot here that fits with a man-made craft flown or operated by humans if its anything at all, assuming Fraver and the two dozen or so other eye witnesses are not lying or engaged in a government conspiracy. Watch it again - then explain to me where in the video above this event and what they describe is debunked (sorry have to give your guy 1 star this time instead of 3 for effort - he has to be conscious at this point that he's avoiding the issues as he did with Ben Davidson)?

Oh and to answer your question from the other thread, the woman's face is blacked out and voice slightly altered because she is terrified of folks like you and the guy who made the video above. She had an experience that was real and terrifying in itself and she knows if she talks about it and is identified she will be ridiculed by people like you. She's also likely terrified of alien enouncter nuts who think they have been appointed adjuct ambassador to the galactic federation of reptilians and come knocking looking to debrief her LOL - there are plenty of reasons for her to black out her face. Commander Fraver, based on his testimony here and on JRE, has "Fearless Personality Condition", very clearly. Clearcut cases like his are really obvious. It's always the quiet, mild-mannered ones you have to look out for lol....