Secession

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theblackswordsman's picture

If I was Prime Minister I would give quebec the choice to become a sovreign nation. That's after forking over the expense to make Canada a Republic, paying back the first nations on the treaties we have skirted and amending our constitution.

 

 

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stokkebye's picture

Didnt they get somthing like %49 vote?

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skeptoid's picture

49.5 yes vs. 50.5 - that's how close we came to civil war. 

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theblackswordsman's picture

I think it's just nonesense that we are making Quebec stay when that many are unhappy. If we let them go we lose montreal and a few resource deposits.

 

They'll be worse off if they are not organized, but I don't see harm in letting them try.

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skeptoid's picture

They would need to shrink their territory considerably because the indigenous wouldn't want to go with - but Quebec wouldn't agree to that. So you have an immediate insurgency within the new nation with the rest of Canada pissed off and sympathetic to the indigenous cause.

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theblackswordsman's picture

What do you think would be a good compromise? I feel that it's important to repatriate them on all the money we haven't honored. How can their living situation be adressed?

 

I was thinking of offering each tribe a new choice of reserve, of proper crown land that is abundant and useful.

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skeptoid's picture

The history of forced integration has sabotaged the process of natural integration with the preservation of what's culturally sacred in a way that's useful. It's all cut up and messed up. And the insertion of woke ideology into the indigenous cause has only made things worse. A lot of indigenous are turning on wokeness because the fact is the core tenets of the woke ideology are at odds with many of the core tenets of indigenous philosophy and spirituality. Nevertheless white folk continue to speak on behalf of the indigenous. Who speaks on behalf of the indigenous? Is it a chief on a reservation or a lawyer working in toronto? Is it an Inuit elder or an indigenous man who runs an entire team of oil prospectors? There's an attempt to present a homogeneous picture of the indigenous group identity that doesn't map to actual reality.  I don't know what to do with that.

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stokkebye's picture

From what I gather the French Quebecers and the natives got along pretty well, it was the Crown and Canada that fucked the natives. My friend has family that got sent to New Orleans and mixed with the natives. We had natives at the Rainbow Gathering I went to in Quebec and they seemed alright with Quebec. Both seemed to hate the British Canadians though. I got a bunch of shit for speaking English up there. In the bumfuck redneck areas where they dont speak any English they were fucking assholes. 

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