I forgot to add evidence that Russia influenced the 2016 election!
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sato (Old Spike)
man the straw-clutching is horrendous.
so what if he wasn't interviewed? he wasn't interviewed because he wasn't a person of importance. even if he did anything or tried to do anything he wasn't in any position to affect the election. so what if trump lied in the past? whatever he did in history doesn't affect that the election wasn't influenced.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Tulsi was the only Democrat presidential candidate that didn't jump the shark on this issue.
I am introducing a resolution at 11:20 AM on the Senate floor to demand that the President of the United States represent the interests of the American people and not Russia. Watch here: https://t.co/zyKevj3vFlpic.twitter.com/ty97d6skoV
The investigation is over, the man has been (more or less) cleared. Hence it should be in dubio pro reo until new evidence comes up for the issues that remain in question.
If the democrats can't let go they will strengthen trumps position for the next election.
As far as the trumptards (as this, in contrary to "normal people" that voted for him, needs to be explained to them) go: The concerns were legitimate and needed exploring, the way trump reacted to this only made him look more suspicious. Of course witnesses that lied in the process should be prosecuted.
And before the trumptards in our little forum here start again: No I did not make assumptions or accusations during the investigation, I always promoted patience on the issue. Again for the trumptards: Your position has been strengthened now, it was worth the wait, of course you did not know that, and most probably expected quite the contrary. This is why you were shouting so desperately for the investigation to stop. And no, the smpotus has not come out of it squeeky clean.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
I called it as soon as I saw Rosenstein give his first testimony that Russian interference took place within a few months of Trump winning. It was bunk from the start. The entire thing. The Democrats & media agencies have not only shot themselves in the foot, they've created serious damage to the US & I just can't see how it can possibly recover unless it dissolves the federal government & starts over. The rest is just fluff. There is no solution at the ballot box. Not any more.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Like I said before, the presidnt's suspicious behaviour on the issue was enough to validate the investigation.
A self confident and -secure leader would have simply said "you go and do your job, I will help in any way I can." He decided to do a Clinton, worse actually, he decided to fire people directly involved in this (of course to no effect), if you do that a bitter aftertaste will remain. What you definitely will NOT achieve is convince skeptical voters to your point of view.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
I don't know what you mean by behaviour. Comey is super dodgy & firing him was in the country's best interest & could be read as a political sacrafice by Trump. Trump & Comey are cut from the same cloth IMO. Politically connected high-level conmen.
In hindsight, do you think Trump's objection to the investigation seems suspicious (considering he did not collude with Russia)?
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Still is suspicious to me. Like I said a self confident person would have said "yeah, you go and have a look mate, let me know what you find" instead of replacing people (other than comey) on the issue. What difference would it have mede keeping them in their jobs? Probably none.
I think trump was just lucky, not necessarily with the russia collusion but with other issues that may have cropped out of the woodwork during the investigation. One thing trump is NOT: an honest, trustworthy person.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
There are a few people who know what's going on & say it. Assange is one of them. This is an interview from April 2017, worth watching IMO.
Yeah Trump's corrupt as hell. The Southern District of NYC should be doing their job but they're not for some reason. Maybe there's only so much you can do against a president because it kind of messes with democracy for him to be investigated while in office.
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(Old Spike)
man the straw-clutching is horrendous.
so what if he wasn't interviewed? he wasn't interviewed because he wasn't a person of importance. even if he did anything or tried to do anything he wasn't in any position to affect the election. so what if trump lied in the past? whatever he did in history doesn't affect that the election wasn't influenced.
(Old Spike)
Tulsi was the only Democrat presidential candidate that didn't jump the shark on this issue.
(Old Spike)
The investigation is over, the man has been (more or less) cleared. Hence it should be in dubio pro reo until new evidence comes up for the issues that remain in question.
If the democrats can't let go they will strengthen trumps position for the next election.
As far as the trumptards (as this, in contrary to "normal people" that voted for him, needs to be explained to them) go: The concerns were legitimate and needed exploring, the way trump reacted to this only made him look more suspicious. Of course witnesses that lied in the process should be prosecuted.
And before the trumptards in our little forum here start again: No I did not make assumptions or accusations during the investigation, I always promoted patience on the issue. Again for the trumptards: Your position has been strengthened now, it was worth the wait, of course you did not know that, and most probably expected quite the contrary. This is why you were shouting so desperately for the investigation to stop. And no, the smpotus has not come out of it squeeky clean.
(Old Spike)
I called it as soon as I saw Rosenstein give his first testimony that Russian interference took place within a few months of Trump winning. It was bunk from the start. The entire thing. The Democrats & media agencies have not only shot themselves in the foot, they've created serious damage to the US & I just can't see how it can possibly recover unless it dissolves the federal government & starts over. The rest is just fluff. There is no solution at the ballot box. Not any more.
(Old Spike)
Like I said before, the presidnt's suspicious behaviour on the issue was enough to validate the investigation.
A self confident and -secure leader would have simply said "you go and do your job, I will help in any way I can." He decided to do a Clinton, worse actually, he decided to fire people directly involved in this (of course to no effect), if you do that a bitter aftertaste will remain. What you definitely will NOT achieve is convince skeptical voters to your point of view.
(Old Spike)
I don't know what you mean by behaviour. Comey is super dodgy & firing him was in the country's best interest & could be read as a political sacrafice by Trump. Trump & Comey are cut from the same cloth IMO. Politically connected high-level conmen.
In hindsight, do you think Trump's objection to the investigation seems suspicious (considering he did not collude with Russia)?
(Old Spike)
Still is suspicious to me. Like I said a self confident person would have said "yeah, you go and have a look mate, let me know what you find" instead of replacing people (other than comey) on the issue. What difference would it have mede keeping them in their jobs? Probably none.
I think trump was just lucky, not necessarily with the russia collusion but with other issues that may have cropped out of the woodwork during the investigation. One thing trump is NOT: an honest, trustworthy person.
(Old Spike)
There are a few people who know what's going on & say it. Assange is one of them. This is an interview from April 2017, worth watching IMO.
Yeah Trump's corrupt as hell. The Southern District of NYC should be doing their job but they're not for some reason. Maybe there's only so much you can do against a president because it kind of messes with democracy for him to be investigated while in office.
(Old Spike)