Pro vaxers need to shut the fuck up and step aside

stokkebye's picture

Fauci Admits Covid Hospitalizations Are Overcounted

You were duped, failed to listen, and still wont listen. You are too stupid to think for yourselves and are too easily duped. You need to shut the fuck up, step aside, and let the intelligent people handle this from now on. 

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Boomshackalacka's picture

LOLOLOLOL Chris Chappel says so....so......let the intelligent people handle this. Get fucked moron. You are one of the biggest idiots on this site. Sounds retarded? No, you ARE retarded.

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stokkebye's picture

It's OK To Be Wrong, It's Not OK To Stay Wrong.

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Bobbob's picture

Here comes Stokke. Looks like we'll need to bring out the big guns..

I Know You Are But What Am I? GIF - The Pee Wee Herman Show Paul Reubens I  Know You Are - Discover & Share GIFs

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skeptoid's picture

But you're paid to post to this site so why should we take anything that you have to say here as sincere. You're a political propagandist so the chances that the information you're presenting is not truthful is very high. The "sounds retarded" phrase was placed there by an admin who is also paid, or uses this site as practise, to post propaganda - Danman. 

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Bobbob's picture

Not to forget we're pretty much watching a satirical sketch show here,..but here we go,..just 2 years in and the revisionist history starts.  Omicron is really easily transmitted and odds are that we'll all get it if we don't have it already. So people going in to hospital now for broken legs or appendicitis or whatever have a good chance of being infected. The good news is that we're dealing with a highly vaccinated population and lower-morbidity variant that seems to be sticking to your upper respiratory tract that isn't killing people who are in moderate to fair health.  This is NOT to say that we forget about the last 2 years where the virus attacked the lower airways/lung, and took down not just grandma or grandpa in the old folks home (which lest we forget, did happen by the way), but also healthy folks who stumbled into the ER cause they couldn't breathe, including moms and dads who were never sick a day in their lives til that point, went on ventilation and died regardless. So yeah, fuck that. 

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daftcunt's picture

lol, it's like talking evolution to creationists, why do you bother?

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Bobbob's picture

I'm just trying to get some facts out, especially when I see people being misinformed and taking on conspiracy peddling click bait as legitimate source.

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skeptoid's picture

Why don't you address the actual topic - deaths have been overcounted. Dramatically. And that's not a "satirical sketch show" - that's the Epic Times, which is embarrassing in its lack of self-awareness but like with all things these days its one of the places you can get information that is true that is not reported elsewhere.

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You consider congestive heart failure pursuant to covid infection to not be death due to covid. In this case your comedy show says people aren't dying of covid and then 2 sentences later accuses Cuomo of killing the elderly with covid.... or what, his dick? Not worth bothering with you.

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skeptoid's picture

"You consider congestive heart failure pursuant to covid infection to not be death due to covid."

 

No, I consider congestive heart failure pursuant to covid infection to be death by covid. I also consider death pursuant to congestive heart failure pursuant to vaccination death by vaccination. What are you smoking? I just don't consider a guy shot three times in the chest they lose in Emerge and the blood work comes back and it's positive for COVID to be a covid death. You do, apparently?

 

Finally, I'd like to see an asterix next to the deaths of those under 70 who had co-morbidities.

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daftcunt's picture

"I also consider death pursuant to congestive heart failure pursuant to vaccination death by vaccination."

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skeptoid's picture

This is how uninformed you are - you think the idea that someone can die of a heart attack after receiving the vaccine is insane nonsense. That's why we're in this pickle right now - proud to be stupid retards like you.

 

It's because of people like you that folks who even try to tell about the death of a loved one due to adverse reaction to the vaccine are angrily shouted down, like they are trying to pull a scam. You're one sick motherfucker - I've never seen such a combination of willful and unintentional foolishness compressed into one person.

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Gone straight past logic and reason to making the treatment the disease! So it's now death by vaccination, is it? I'd tell you to put down the pipe but it's obvious the damage is permanent by now. Anyway, hopefully this brief summary helps you get your brain around it: You and yours perpetuate this pandemic while those who have done their part suffer in silence. And now, not having honored the social contract, you (all) feel inconvenienced by not having the same access to services (or venues).  So very.. basse classe.

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"Gone straight past logic and reason to making the treatment the disease!"

 

Nope. There are many treatments for the disease - pray tell, why are you focused on just one experimental gene therapy treatment?

 

"So it's now death by vaccination, is it?"

 

What is?

 

"You and yours perpetuate this pandemic while those who have done their part suffer in silence. And now, not having honored the social contract, you (all) feel inconvenienced by not having the same access to services (or venues).  So very.. basse classe."

 

Thanks for this - you are no Christian, and I'm always hesitant to make such a statement. Feel comfortable about it with you. "Those who have done their part suffer in silence" - no they are quite loud, like you. And apparently suffering the effects of a psychological disorder that appears to have been deliberately provoked, at least partially.

 

You are sitting (or standing) there claiming a person cannot have an adverse reaction to the vaccine that results in death or permanent injury. That's simply false - why would you do that? Why would you lie to people? Is it because you took the vaccine and you want others to also take the vaccine? Show me how you're being logical and I am not being logical - will you?

 

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Coming from you..every time you say 'you are no Chritian' just raises my self-esteem. 

Calling it 'experimental gene therapy', I mean it's FDA-approved and you still have the classic non-mRNA options from AZ or J&J available to you..but doing your part to protect your fellow citizens just wouldn't be Christian,..from your point of view. Right?

 

You putz.

 

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-panel-recommends-people-n...

 

I've stated repeatedly now that I've seriously considered the Sputnik vaccine - seems like one of the best based on what I've read - but unfortunately because it was produced in a largely Christian country called Russia, no one will recognize it. 

 

Denying that which you should give to the Lord and giving it instead to Ceasar is not at all Christian, no. It's actually anti-Christian.

 

Jesus first called them hypocrites, and then asked one of them to produce a Roman coin that would be suitable for paying Caesar's tax. ... They answered, "Caesar's," and he responded: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's".

 

And when he called them hypocrites, the entire concept he was introducing was entirely new to that portion of the human race and, possibly, the entire human race. Before he gave it its new meaning, it just meant "actor/clown", which was a profession - an entertainment service (not well respected but tolerated, barely). By applying it to the authorities of his day, by putting the concept out in that way, he invented something entirely new that changed our way of thinking forever. The very concept of hypocrisy appears to have been entirely invented and introduced by Christ, at least in the Western tradition of thought.

 

I'll ask again - oh you thought I was just going to let this go if you focused on the Christian issue, didn't you? But nope. Why are you telling people that no one has had adverse reactions, or has died, as a direct result of taking these vaccines? Why are you lying?

 

Again, please tell me how I am not being logical while you are being logical. There's something about the way you come across that seems incredibly disingenuous - are you aware of this?

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We were told for 2 years now that if you want to stop the spread. Take the vaccine. That was a lie.

Back when Delta and Delta+ was around. The Vaccinated people were infecting Mom and Pop and killing them Just as much as the unvax.  The vaccinated are still infecting Gramma and Grampa and mommy and daddy
The vaccinated got a free pass to kill. a Vaccination card that allows you to walk into any resto.Club.Bar.Movie teathre and spread your fucking virus.

The UNVACCINATED CANT Enter these locations. So fuck off.  We are spreading it way less then you.

 

You are protected with your vaccine. Mom and Pop is protected with their vaccine. Stop forcing us to take it.

 

 Stop blaming the unvax for the death of parents. You are just as much to blame. 
Many people recorded with covid cases died due unrelated to covid.  Like heart attack. Strokes. Cancer. Seasonal Flus.etc.

 

You are the crazy fucks. You live in Denial if you think the vaccinated didn't kill mom and pop.

How many fucking jabs will you take before you say enough is enough. 10? 15? 20?

 

 

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danman's picture

are you being forced to take it?

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Bobbob's picture

Sounds like.

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"We were told for 2 years now that if you want to stop the spread. Take the vaccine."

No we weren't. We were told it would reduce the spread, that it would help people to have less severe symptoms for those that contract covid and that less would die of it.

 

ALL of which turned out to be correct!

 

 

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No we weren't we were told that if you took the vaccine this would all be over. This implied that taking the vaccine would protect you from infection and transmission. People got the vaccine, millions of them, and then went out into the public believing that they were free from infection and transmission. This happened because of people like you. You know what you should do right?

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You are biased and deluded to an extent that you are blind to ALL the facts. 

From day one of rollout ALL the vaccines had an efficiancy rating attached to them, NOBODY tried to hide it. Neither did anyone try to hide that the vaccinated still can spread the virus, they just get "uncontagious" way quicker. 

ALL of this is actually true for flu shots btw.

Similarily from day one of introducing anti covid measures they had  the reduce risk (NOT eliminate) caviat attached to them. 

 

Time to wake up. 
 

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The only stats we were give were post-rollout after months of build-up and claims it would end the pandemic. The stats I saw repeated over and over for efficiency were attached to how long you were protected from infection and how much your percentage protection dropped over time, leading to the need for the second dose. The Second dose was actually sold across the board as the only thing you'd need to deal with the original strain. Efficiency ratings initially ranged from 69% at outset up to 95%, and these values were presented as percentage of protection from infection/transmission. It was actually news when the realization was made that the vaccine doesn't hit this marks AT ALL for the original strain. You don't remember that - you don't remember people in the comment section saying the infection/transmission post-vaccination was real and you responding by posting your laughing guy below and acting like we were claiming a conspiracy was underoot? I haven't seen anyone say they were trying to "hide" anything - when you conduct an experience en mass on the population why would you not exepct the unexpected?

 

Maybe you have a different news culture where you're from - a lot of people from other countries report a different experience from those who watch some North American news channel as their exclusive source of information about what's going on. I followed shit CLOSELY and across a diverse set of sources, and I only started seeing acknowledgement of the infection/transmission post-vaccination a good time AFTER the initial vaccine rollout.

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"you don't remember people in the comment section saying the infection/transmission post-vaccination was real and you responding by posting your laughing guy"

 

If I replied with a laughing guy to a comment containing this or something similar it wasn't bacause of this part of the comment.

 

Just look at your comments, even if you actually write something that is not wrong to the extent of being hillarious there is a 90%+ chance that the same comment does contain something that actually is wrong to the extent of being hillarious.

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No I think it more likely that you just don't have much to say because you don't really think for yourself and don't really have your own opinions. You really don't know - you don't really want to know. You just have a narrative and an authority that you copy from and repeat, including their messaging word for word, and basically walk around like that with your assflap open to the wind all day.

 

Even Dr. Fauci said that the vaccine would be along the lines of what we expect for something like smallpox, with breakthrough infections being "extremely rare". I thought Fauci was your hero, or are we losing faith?

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Again, in contrary to you:

 

  • I know my limits
  • I don't permanently reside on the peak of mount stupid
  • I don't have individual "heroes" in this respect, if anything health staff and public workers are the heroes of this pandemic. People like you otoh are the scum.

 

A lot of assumptions were made by competent people based on limited knowledge/experience, these were corrected as more was found out. This is NOTHING out of the ordinary.

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"This is NOTHING out of the ordinary."

 

No, making assumptions that turn out to be wrong is nothing out of the ordinary. Not correcting course once you are aware that you were wrong, and continuing along the same path like nothing's wrong, is out of the ordinary. You can't have your cake and eat it to, I'm afraid. All you do is defend authority like the most pathetic of sycophants hoping that some of the prestige you perceive in them will rub off on you. It's about as sad a thing as I can think of, and it's you.

 

"I know my limits"

 

Can you expand on this, please?

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When was the "course not corrected" in accordance with new findings?

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No answer? Thought so!

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skeptoid's picture

LMAO - keep making an ass of yourself. *whoosh*

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OK, so no answer. Perfect. As expected. You are such a coward, even on an anonymous forum, it is hillarious.

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Bobbob's picture

All I got from this is that you're ill informed.. and upset with me for referencing traditional gender roles, mom and dad. Triggered much?

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skeptoid's picture

Actually history shows us that in the short term our understanding of history is often extremely poor. It is only with time and especially as the consequences of actions become diluted overtime that we find out what actually has occurred. Because we're in a crisis this process is happening more rapidly and it is much more messy but the fact that deaths have been dramatically over counted is not denied even by Dr Fauci.

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Yeah a lot of people went into the hospital complaining of problems breathing and then were killed by ventilators. Whatever you do don't let them put you on a ventilator if you're below like 60 and were in good health before the breathing problem started.

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So, I've realized something about this GIF you post, which is your favourite one by far. In the actual context that served as source for this GIF, the man we see laughing was doing so in a completely insincere manner - actually trying to give false hope to his congregation by conveying emotions he did not actually feel. 

 

Keep using it - it's perfect for you.

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Not to intervene, I mean the 2 of you should still get a room.. but the gif is quite a propos. He's openly mocking your stupidity.. or duplicity..or both. Mocking you the way this fake preacher mocked his flock. You've shown yourself to be intelligent in the past and the fact that you're trying to play logical fallacy games and posting misinformation on this site while some albeit lesser informed folks are still trying to make up their minds on getting vaccinated takes you from troll to dangerous.  And you delight in this, don't you.. I say stick to your strengths. For example,  you really should go back to posting vids where the old fat fuck (your term) and the slightly younger fat fuck are sitting around the fire pit talking about critical race theory.  Most of us are quite invested.. and curious to see if they'll take their discusion to the next level..meaning to the sauna or the jacuzzi in the next installment. 

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Oh, come one, you take all of the fun out of it when you explain it to the stupitoid.......... 

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Everything you just wrote - you see what I'm talking about? The only societally dangerous person here is a false Christian - who knows they aren't Christian - trying to gently pied piper those who have been abused by the system he's defending and promoting to surrender their agency and obey the pharisees of today. You are absolutely dispicable and I've been on to you from the start (actually thought you might be our esteemed MonkeyMania given how obviously disingenuous you come across) but you're just another asshat who wants to fuck around here and promote authoritarianism and wokeist fascism.

 

You denied mailing me directly and trying to put yourself out as an ally of folks like me and the Blackswordsman. Would you like me to post the contents of those emails here? You just made another claim - that I've referred to someone as a "fat fuck". I remember mentioning that the guy's daily podcasts are pretty much stream of consciousness, and James Lindsey's New Discourses channel is much better for the daily content. It's possible I called him a "fat fuck" but don't remember it - he's not the intellectual so much as facilitator of the discussions.

 

And now you have also revealed (you aren't as gentle or as subtle at this as you think, eh?) your opinion of wokeism and what's been revealed about the satanic theology that lies behind it. You are very bad at this - now we definitely know that you are NOT a Christian. Go ahead and try and claim you are again. Do it right now - please.

 

Look at this shit - read what you wrote and really think about how it comes across: "you really should go back to posting vids where the old fat fuck (your term) and the slightly younger fat fuck are sitting around the fire pit talking about critical race theory.  Most of us are quite invested.. and curious to see if they'll take their discusion to the next level..meaning to the sauna or the jacuzzi in the next installment. "

 

Oh, and sorry your point. Right. Your point is invalid - I mean EXACTLY what I say and I am prepared to die, at any time, in defense of my principles. Like today - how about you? Do you know what folks like I do to folks like you when everyone is clued in to what you've been up to and the conditions are right for justice. Have you seen Tarantino's film about old Germany? I AM dangerous - to you, and those like you. Keep that in mind.

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