The old geezer incident

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George Floyd protests: Police officers who shove and injure 75-year-old man are suspended

Before more people that refuse to try to comprehend what I am saying complain: I do not think what the cop did was a good job, I simply think there is even worse behaviour following the man falling. People are upset about the man being pushed.  To give the officer the benefit of the doubt imho he just tried to make a point and pushed the man too hard. If the old man wouldn't have stumbled going backwards probably no harm would have been done. He fell, though.

 

And here is where my concern really starts: I am disgusted how way more than half the fucking squad just walks past the guy lying on the floor, bleeding from the ear and trembling with some sort of seizure. The squad resigned, following a kneejerk move from the authorities firing the 2 cops, in a snowflake kneejerk reaction. Honestly I wouldn't shed a tear over the shitheads.

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stokkebye's picture

You are such a fucking boot licker! He was trying to return a riot helmet and the pos cops told him to piss off then shoved him. Those pos cops were charged with felony assault and those other pos cops should be charged with accessory to the crime! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/nyregion/Buffalo-police-charged.html  

Now for just one second, stop licking the boot, and ask yourself this: If you saw a 25-30 yr old jacked up guy shove a 75 year old man to the ground, what would you do? Would you say "oh I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and perhaps he didnt mean to shove him that hard"? Or would you say "WHAT THE FUCK!" Just because they are wearing badges does NOT give them extra rights or that they can disregard human civility! And fuck you for defending them, you fucking boot licker! 

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You're an angry little boy aren't you.

 

I simply commented on what I saw.

 

Before you reply you should at least try to comprehend what the other party had to say.

 

"He was trying to return a riot helmet and the pos cops told him to piss off then shoved him."

This does not become apparent from the video. The man points at something and does not move when is told to do so. He holds something black under his left arm but does not offer it to the officer (this would not hve been the time and place to return a "riot helmet" anyway). 

 

According to the article you linked:
"Mr. Gugino, who was shoved after he approached officers, staggered backward and landed hard on the sidewalk. Blood was seen immediately pooling behind his head."

 

So it appears that this is what we know.

 

Nothing of his intentions were mentioned. In the video we cannot hear what is being said.

 

To me it looks like the officer shoved him harder than necessary, that is it, again I give the benefit of the doubt that he did not want this to happen. The really offensive part starts afterwards.

I would recommend you watch my post of an ex UK cop on the whole malarky. It is a bit long though, people were already offended about that.

 

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monkeymania's picture

The old guy got fucked up, that is clear. The city of Buffalo is facing a lawsuit from the old guy for sure and if he dies, his family will try to bankrupt the city. How do you think it will turn out? I have no idea, I just have a feeling that as in most cases, the police will get the benefit of the doubt and nothing will come of it.

 

Boy, cameras are really making things complicated. All of the recent actions, including beatings and murders, wouldn't have made front page in local newspapers in their areas if there was no video.

 

"He attacked me and I shot him"

"He tripped and fell"

"We didn't use tear gas"

"They were attacking us"

"They had weapons"

"We used restraint"

 

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stokkebye's picture

The cops tried saying he tripped and fell BEFORE the video came out! That is part of the problem. 

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daftcunt's picture
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So here we have new important and maybe case changing information, according to you:
Prior to release of the video the officer(s) involved denied shoving the man, they said he tripped and fell on his own.

Is that correct? Do you have a source you may want to share?

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stokkebye's picture

Its not letting me post the screenshot. Here is the link from the original news station posting of the video: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=330018027980346

 

Buffalo Man Injured After Being Pushed by Police

(WARNING: GRAPHIC) One man is hospitalized and two policemen suspended after this incident from a protest in Buffalo on Thursday. This is footage from the incident, obtained by radio station WBFO. In a statement from earlier today, police said "one person was injured when he tripped & fell," although it was unclear whether this was referring to the man shown in the video. 

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https://www.wivb.com/news/five-people-arrested-one-person-injured-during-protest-activity-in-niagara-square/?fbclid=IwAR18KlqSHm28H3q3savdLLbg0UQauw7K1ctqRxVa7pyuM0E-2-4dfGbAjk0

Police originally said that “one person was injured when he tripped and fell”. It’s not clear whether they were referring to the incident that was caught on camera.

Later in the night, Buffalo Police Department Capt. Jeff Rinaldo said that internal affairs has opened an investigation into the incident, and that the investigation was ordered by the commissioner of police.

Buffalo Police Commissioner Byron Lockwood has ordered both officers involved in the incident suspended immediately without pay.

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2nd link does not work from europe. Still the "choice of words" doesn't change the fact that it is extremely appauling that the police did not attend the injured person on the ground, the officer trying to help was even pushed along by a colleague, this was the whole point I was trying to make in the fiirst place.

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he was reaching for the officers gun, shoulda shot him

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monkeymania's picture

Finally! A voice of reason. I was sure this was fake.

 

 

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daftcunt's picture
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Now this actually is hillarious! Is this for real?
The orange twat and I agree on the old man being pushed but not with the intent to harm.
And then, BLAM, all reason goes out the window!

Is trump implying the old man somehow tried to fall harder in some kind of suicide mission?

Maybe the black thing under his arm was a 5G bomb?

Let's see what cockintheeye has to say about that....... That is gonna be fun. 

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I dont know where you got it in your head that Im the sort that sticks to tribalism no matter what color or that I like ANY politician. Ive always said Im for anarchy and libertarianism. Trump is funny sometimes, rocks the boat and pisses people off, which is great! I stir people up, like you, who take this shit too seriously and suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome in that even though the Dems illegally spied on Trump, tried to impeach him on bogus shit, weaponized our law enforcement branch to take down Trump, all the while voting in line with Trump and extending the "patriot act", I point this out and people like you yell OrangeManBadThough! Fuck Trump, Fuck Obama, Fuck Bush, Fuck Clinton, Fuck Pelosi, Fuck Schumer! They dont give a shit about us so why give a shit about them? Fuck the government and Fuck police! Fuck the Federal Reserve and Fuck the IRS! There, are you starting to understand where I am at now? Occupy Wall Street and Standing happened under Obama and what did he do? Nothing! You and everyone else are being played.

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