Military in NYC

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Military has Arrived in Manhattan New York today

>>>> UPDATE <<<<

THIS POST HAD VIDEOS FROM YEARS AGO, THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED.

I CAN'T VERIFY THIS UPDATED VIDEO EITHER BUT NO YT COMMENTS SAY IT'S A HOAX YET.

 

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The head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Friday it's scouting hotels, dorms and other buildings in New York City that could be converted into field hospitals with 10,000 beds.

 

Lt. Gen. Todd Semonite said the Federal Emergency Management Agency gave the Corps $1 million Tuesday to start the process and that FEMA said more money will be provided as needed.

 

Semonite said the corps has already looked at the huge Jacob Javits Convention Center on the western edge of Manhattan and some State University of New York buildings.

 

Corps engineers were also visiting other buildings to assess them Friday, he said. [src]

 

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danmanjones's picture

Why do they need humvees with 50cal turrets, APCs and a bunch of other gear if all they're doing is scouting for a location??

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A perfectly sound question. It's to let everyone know they arn't impersonators and that they are very serious. An armored convoy is how you do it without wasting one second explaining your credentials. The trucks are for carrying any gear required to do thorough assessments.

 

The weapons are to deter theft or civillian approaches to the gear, or just in case a panic mob assembled. 99% chance that wouldn't happen, but Marines don't go anywhere unprepared and they don't leave out any variables.

 

Make no mistake. They arn't asking for beds, they are telling.

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marines are part of the navy, these guys are army engineering corps according to the tiny bit of media coverage I could dig up. Seems doubtful to me that they'd be authorised to use force. I thought that would be the job of national guard & only under martial law. It's all very strange.

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They arn't authorized to use force. But the intimidation factor will quell most "wise" ideas any rogues or panickers might have.

 

Pardon me, When you mentioned corps I thought you meant marines.

 

But yeah, You can't just dress like a troop and make incredible demands without some common sense proof that it's an official operation. Intimidation and presence of might is the most efficient path. Plus the military has no idea how people will react.

 

I would be far more worried if they imposed curfew and martial law. As that can be greatly abused much like some incidents with hurricane Katrina.

 

Plus by forcing everyone to conduct their business at the same hours of the day increases chance of spread.

 

They already started pulling videos off of you tube. Looks like our info is going to be largely blacked out.

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The intimidation factor is part of what I find kinda strange. Like, they are there to help the people. It seems kinda paranoid to be intimidating people into compliance... or it could be a sign of them being disorganised - if they coordinated properly with the local law enforcement there should be no need for intimidation tactics. 

 

I tend to agree that they seem to be not taking any chances but damn man. It's pretty surprising to me that they're almost treating US soil as a warzone already. We haven't even gotten any cool Mad Max style videos coming through yet.

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I agree, One thing that I am concerned about is if this is coupling as a peaceful positioning step so everything is in place when martial law is imposed.

 

You have to be paranoid about nearly 350 million people that flip out about two scoops of ice cream. What are they going to do if an announcement breaks that the plague has mutated infectevity and severeity beyond Control.

 

That's also why the president lied about it. 1. Was to attempt to control it first without harming the GDP. 2. Was to prevent the panic of a stupid herd until the situation could no longer be controlled.

 

When both of those measures failed, then they will parcel out the truth as neccessary.

 

I don't agree with it, but I see why it's being handled the way it has been.

 

In Canada I think this might be worse than we are being told. I'm seeing sick people all over the place with cold symptoms. Which Covid can mask as. I may have been exposed when I filed my taxes as some dirty bitch needed her 100 dollar tax return so badly. She did not look well at all. I'll know by the beginning April in my case. Funny thing is that was my last essential errand I needed before staying home and painting.

 

At least if I get it I know I'll recover. My immune system is good.

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Good that your immune system is ok. Average incubation time is 5 days, then symptoms. The martial law idea has to be one of their considerations. The leadership is erratic & it's all happening fast & loose at this point. I'd think NYC would be one of the last places to get out of control though just because of the nature of that city. Somewhere like Baltimore I could understand them taking no chances.

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Control measures would be done by population density and ports 1st and essential resources 2nd. NYC, L.A. Miami, Dallas, San Fransisco, San Diego would be at the top. The followed by food production, minerals, gas etc.

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They're patrolling as a "test run" according to this bus driver https://youtu.be/rNNrm-rgv4Q?t=25

 

I would have thought that was illegal unless they declare martial law. It's such a huge difference between patrolling & scouting for a building, as people are being told they are doing.

 

Contrast the Manhatten army patrol with this Italian army - the police are escorting these army trucks in Italy - https://youtu.be/Os1TJHJ_ijc

That's how I would have thought a US army engineering corps would show up if they were mobilised inside a city unless martial law had been declared... and if martial law I thought only the national guard could be used. Not the army. What am I missing?

 

edit: just found this, it explains the legal side https://www.newsweek.com/inside-us-militarys-plans-stop-civil-disturbances-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-something-they-1493485

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sal9000's picture
Master Mind

atleast they can take comfort in knowing the building wont collapse ontop of them

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Fullauto223cal's picture

These videos have been debunked.  They are all re-uploaded from other channels who posted them 5-7 years ago.

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Cool, thanks. I'll leave it up for the convo but will edit it accordingly. Cheers.

For what it's worth I found other similar ones but saw that they were old videos too. Seems people like to spread disinfo around this topic, I'll be more careful.

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