Italy Possible Ground Zero for COVID-19

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Expert: Virus may have circulated in Italy before outbreak in China

Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."

- NPR

 

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sure

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I remember 5 to 10 years back watching a doc about pandemics . They basically outlined what is happening now and said ground zero would be a live market in China . 

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Watch the thunderfoot video I posted and you will see this is absolutely unlikely.

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I don't agree. Both Wuhan & Lombardy had strange cases of pneumonia dating back to Nov/Dec 2019. Neither would have recorded all cases because of the nature of testing & the asymptomatic cases etc. so if you're arguing about his simple exponential spread model I think you're missing a bunch of real-world aspects. A bunch of countries have had a low number of cases for weeks without massive outbreak or major containment measures.

 

Tracing the source isn't as simple as just looking at who had the most confirmed cases by the end of January. It's also possible it came from somewhere outide of Italy or China & could be years before it's resolved. The MERS virus is a good example of how origins can change when new data becomes available.

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monkeymania's picture

Breaking News!

 

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lawngnome's picture

Did the US army visit that fish market before taking part in the military games in Wuhan?   lol

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