Fake news threatening to expose a fictional dark side of the paradise that is China.
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How China Tracks Everyone
Fake news threatening to expose a fictional dark side of the paradise that is China.
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(Old Spike)
US has more CCTV cameras per capita than China & weaker laws against private data being abused by corporations but stronger laws against police using your private data.
The Social Credit section is misleading. The intro calls it a "Social Credit Score". There is no score. It's more like a sharing of information around different ministries & is barely worthy of mentioning, let alone the massive coverage it gets in the West. Chinese barely have heard about it because it's not important.
The most talked about "punishment" is the train/plane ticket purchasing ban. This is in the case of unpaid fines - the 'judicial wing' is sharing fines data with the 'transport wing'(sic)...the theory supposedly is that if you can afford a train ticket, you can afford to pay your fine & you have to do this first. It's an answer to their lax system of debt collection for court fines or other judgements where you end up owing money. Once you pay the fine, you're off the 'blacklist'.
There's a 5 minute audiio clip on this page that busts a lot of the myths surrounding the Social Credit system & an archive of more info if you really care to look here.
(Long Spike)
"US has more CCTV cameras per capita than China & weaker laws against private data being abused by corporations but stronger laws against police using your private data."
Thats probably because most corporations either don't have the pulling power or are ballsy enough (or dumb enough) to try and pull shit on the Chinese government. The Chinese government can shit on an individual nobody from a great height just because they posted a something on the interwebs that the cencesorship board didn't like. Let alone a company trying to make money in the country or from it.
And those CCTV's in America as opposed to China, are they all government owned and controlled? Or is this like a broad statistic of sales/ownership and CCTV's sold in said country?
I got no doubt that your right. And that America has more CCTV's. But how much is 'big brother' watching?
(Old Spike)
AFAIK in Chinee police enforcement the CCTVs are used to look at footage after a crime's been committed, similar to how it's done here except the cops don't need anyone's permission to get the video.
It doesn't make much sense for the police to be tracking individuals at all times. There's over a billion of them & it would be a waste of time/power. Proper facial recognition is still relatively data-intensive & really, what would they do with the information?
Everyone carries around a cell phone and both governments have spooks that can profile us if needed. The regular cops are much more crude. The important thing is more what the cops can bust you for doing online. That's the obvious difference with the 'big brothers' in each hemisphere.
Personally (& I'm not shilling here) I prefer not saying dumb shit online to having a dozen 'Little Brothers' in my pocket at all times, giving god knows what data to god knows who & it all ending up in the hands of a foreign government, which is what I have now. I'm more of a cyber nationalist than a privacy advocate. We should be at least selling access to our big data instead ofgiving it away for free.
my keyboard is fucked. dammit. spilt water on it & it won't come right :/
(Old Spike)
Thats because it is chinese water made by the chinese government to destroy your keyboards so they can sell you new chinese ones.
(Old Spike)
lol, this vague speculative rubbish gets 6 5-star votes... wait until you guys hear what Edward Snowden has to say. Or does it only count if it happens in China?
(Long Spike)