Covid19 FAR less lethal than Reported

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skeptoid's picture

Yes we finally fell for it. They will own us now.

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boldfart's picture

Who is going to tell those excess deaths that they should not have died?

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skeptoid's picture

Are you referring to the suicides? I don't know the people who even now are continuing to push this authoritarian power grab even though we now know a lot of this wasn't necessary, and more importantly that a new normal with an expansive tracking and surveillance system is absolutely not necessary, will have a lot of blood on their hands I guess.

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Why would Trump do that? And How does surveillance cause bloodshed?

 

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Why would trump do what? The main thing that would cause the suicides is people not having enough money to live or food to eat. It depends on your orientation. Some people will just kill themselves while others will go out and kill other to get what they need for the people that they are trying to care for or just for themselves. The surveillance state will help curb it beyond the current excuse of needing something for 'contact tracing' and the fantasy of authoritarians who sit waiting in the woodwork will come to fruition and you'll get to see who in your neighborhood is a fascist. People should be paying very close attention and taking notes right now. Note the fascists coming out of the woodwork in your neighborhood. I'm pretty sure it will quickly evolve from needing an immunity card to go to the grocery store to pledging yourself to a certain ideations and ideology to get ideological purity badge that grants you entry into various businesses including grocery stores. It's just over the horizon now and should come into view pretty soon.

 

As for your second question I'll just pretend that you were pretending to be retarded.

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tell that to italy and spain..it may not be as bad as expected but its still not something you want running rampant through the world..the lockdown was the right thing to do given the information available at the time..

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I agree with you, but keep in mind we dont have a vaccine for this. Imagine how many more people would die if we had no flu vaccines... Its the same thing. In fact, i'd argue that a flu with no vaccine would kill more, as it affects people of all ages not just the old. 

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You'll need your "Proof of Vaccine" tracking chip to enter the grocery store.

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Dr Drew was right all along

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He actually was.

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Focusing on the death rate is actually the red herring approach some politically motivated would like you to look at the issue.

 

From the start the actual mortality rate was estimated to be around 1% or slightly lower. This is not the issue. NONE of the scientists and doctors looking for a solution are focusing on that, the quaranitne measures were NOT put in place because of that. If you haven't grasped that yet there is a strong argument you can't be helped.

 

 

also: Whether the swedish way to go works for sweden remains tpo be seen, this cannot be compared with other regions, though, at leaast not in a simplistic fashion.

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I think it depends more on your personality type, which in turn affects your motivation. For example, I would have accepted at least five 9/11s before I would even consider something like the patriot act. Even if family members perished. Others are more fearful and ready to accept restrictions on their freedom if they're told it will help prevent something that looks really scary from happening in the future. I'm very suspicious of such arguments because time and again they turn out to be driven by something other than the excuse that's given to the public. And it's not some villain twirling their moustache - it's collective human behavior losing the regulatory effects designed to constrain power. Start breaking those chains and authority will fill the previous vacuum with some brand of tyranny - it's what we do. 

 

Seeing YouTube accept the WHO as the authority on this to the exclusion of any other source is really, really bad for all of us IMO. That said, the fact that we have top-down, government controlled health care and well-entrenched social security systems likely has helped my country, Canada, navigate this crisis with more ease. I'm wondering though if six months from now they'll come back with "Whoops, we were so eager to help we're fucked with debt now, and so as part of the new normal...." Fuck. Also the geography helps. The population density and spread help too. So at the national level, and where applicable the state/provincial level, a centralized approach makes sense. Until the globalist systems are made more competent and less corrupt, I think it should end there. The WHO should, if it does anything, just be acting as a central reporting nexus for the various territories combating the crisis - they shouldn't be issuing commands and orders, and defining realities, that are followed by the CEO of YouTube to the exclusion of all else. That's retarted, and we've seen what a clusterfrack that turned out to be.

 

Again, you say the speed of distribution was the reason - Sweden said "Oh it spreads fast - great! Everyone proceed as normal." It worked for them - yes Sweden is mostly small villages, well distributed. Similar to Canada. Every flu season in Canada the flu spreads rapidly across the population, regardless of vaccination. This year stats for regular flu are down dramatically. Surely you can start to see what's happened here?

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seriously, who the fuck is downvoting this?

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Me. I want people to keep thinking its super deadly so I can buy up cheap stocks and make a shit ton of easy money! :D

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skeptoid's picture

Now is the time to get with the program. 

 

"I have always been concerned about the lack of a contact-tracing application that tracks everywhere you go and everyone you've had contact with that will of course only be used to protect us all from a hypothetical future pandemic. Those who question it are murderers of old people, clearly. And soon you won't even have to carry your phone with you. We understand that not everyone has a phone that can install this app or you may not want to carry your phone with you everywhere you go. That's why Dystopian Pharmaceuticals has developed a convenient chip that is cheap, easy to install in your forearm, and will do exactly what the app does except you won't have to remember to bring your phone when you go shopping for groceries, and installation is free! At Dystopian Pharmaceuticals, we're here to help, and we're in it with you. Thank you. K you got that CIA contract written up - yes they want it tied in with the social credit system. We can't have an army of people monitoring this thing so, as per specs, starvation and ostracization protocols will be automatically triggered by the machine AI based on travel patterns, associates, and online expressions but they should be confirmed within 48 hours by a human operative. Yes, and make sure the executive is exempt from this for fuck's sake - these people have no idea the nightmare we're walking them int....what?? We're still live AAH SHIT, FUCK, SHUT IT OFF SHUT IT OFF!"

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