mostly from you guessed it ... Ukraine!
Canada government turns a blind eye to neo-Nazis in the country raising funds for their genocidal mates in Ukraine, all the while they're bombing Russian Ukrainians in their homes on the regular for 8 years while Canada trains them via NATO & Canada govt+media pretends this isn't what's going on.
little bit more reading about how canada been meddling in Ukraine's affairs this past decade
https://yvesengler.com/2022/01/24/maybe-the-story-is-more-complex-than-russia-bad-canada-good/
...to be continued?
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(Old Spike)
(Site Administrator)
lmao, the video's no longer available in my country
Russian Insights channel is too dangerous for us now
we should probably gather up any Russian books & have a bonfire just like the good old days eh
edit: jesus it's not even available with Russian IP now.
"This video is not available in your country" = false advertising
title of the video is "Influential Ukrainian Diaspora In Canada Finances Neo-Nazi Militias In Ukraine's War" & I can't find another copy of it anywhere :/
it was uploaded over 2 years ago & now poof. Gone.
Can't get to them on Twitter now either
People say that during the first Cold War it was more a case of the "free" world blocking academic/tech/cultural/economic interaction with the socialist world more than the other way around.. the more I see the more I believe it. We do this at the same time as figuring out advanced ways of penetrating their cultural sphere for political ends, apparently. Russia should probs just go full China at this point, block Google etc unless they conform to data protection laws like US did with TikTok &/or just create their own. Yandex is better than Google already in a bunch of ways.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
You're simultaneously whining about censorship and promoting it?
(Site Administrator)
promoting what?
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Censorship.
"Russia should probs just go full China at this point, block Google etc"
(Site Administrator)
"...unless they conform to data protection laws"
it's not censorship it's digital sovereignty & also not wasting their time investing in a platform like Youtube to just have it ripped out from under them.
Obviously the yanks are weaponizing "private" media platforms so it's just another thing they can't be trusted with.
"derp you said you're for censorship derp" ... jesus
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"unless they conform to data protection laws"
Data protecton laws mean jack shit these day. If you get caught not abiding to those laws you get a slap on the wrist. It's the new currency, data collection.
We've had a lenghty discussion about this.
I know you are for censorship. "China firewall good and more countries should follow suite"
(Old Spike)
hillarious post, thanks
You reached skeptoid level, you made it to the top!
(Site Administrator)
you don't even have the balls to answer the question but I'll ask anyway to make it obvious
what is it that you take issue with?
(Old Spike)
Posting such blatant propaganda shit that has been removed from YT.
(Site Administrator)
so you have nothing to say except to label it as propaganda
how incredibly weak.
would you like to try again...what is it that you take issue with?
(Old Spike)
Look, "discussing" this with you is like "discussing" vaccine or global warming science with skeptoid blackswordwhatever. Neither of you care about the people that potentially lose their lives due to your spreading of propaganda and misinformation from "alternative sources or science" so I won't engage, sorry, not worth my time, just hillarious sometimes.
(Site Administrator)
even when asked directly to backup your words you got nothing.
pathetic.
(Old Spike)
completely deluded and doesn't get it..... Hillarious! That is what I am here for after all, entertainment. The orgiginal site was called spikedhumor after all but you and the others always try to spoil it.
(Site Administrator)
you could dispute anything in this post but you choose not to even make an attempt
what a chicken shit
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Nobody really cares even if true.
Since you can't defend Russias actions directly you have to resort to this nazi whataboutism and how everyone helping Ukraine are the baddies. Kinda of a twisted way of looking at it, but not surprising since everything is anti-west with you.
(Site Administrator)
it's not "nazi whataboutism" it's a very significant part of the conflict in Ukraine that's been going on since 2014
14k people died there in a conflict that's been raging in the 8 years between the time the US govt couped the elected govt in 2014 & the attack by Russian forces in 2022 - checkout the kind of shit that's been going on that western propaganda ignores
if you want to remove the nazis, Russiophobic govt policies, or the conflict in Donbass from the equation you're being disengenuous.
"Kinda of a twisted way of looking at it" -- nah that's just you projecting. I've not described how I see it on here really. Everything is in bits & bobs & the more you clowns try to dismiss the literal nazis that NATO has been training & arming there since 2015 the more I'm gonna rub it in your face. I don't think there's anyone on here has a decent enough grasp of the past 30 years of US-Russia relations to even comment in a meaningful way on what this war is about. Besides me of course :D There was a post by Timmy Tosser which almost made me throw up at how bad his take was on the geopolitical background to the conflict.
You can ignore NATO arming Nazis if it makes you feel comfy but if you give me shit about pointing it out or try to dismiss it as some irrelevant/fringe thing I'm only gonna do it more. There's a reason they recruited these guys, they're the ones who are more committed to taking on the Russian speaking people from Donbass in their civil war there, and would double as insurgents if things unfolded the way they have. That's not all they do though, they've been tearing the social cohesion of Ukraine apart & really fucking with the politics there. This stuff isn't something you can brush under the rug with any real honesty. Does this excuse Russia from invading? Nah probly not but again there's more to the story & it involves 30 years of broken promises from NATO, the Minsk accords, Normandy format & other diplomatic efforts which have failed. It's a failure of diplomacy as are a lot of armed conflicts.
nice one NATO
but hey it's all good....
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
I don't deny there being nazis in Ukraine, not at all. A lot of people are arming them including their own government.
What I don't agree is Russias invasion and you (or anyone else) trying to justify it with the Nazis. Thats the whataboutism "It make it ok because there's nazis there"
(Site Administrator)
> What I don't agree is Russias invasion and you (or anyone else) trying to justify it with the Nazis. Thats the whataboutism "It make it ok because there's nazis there"
Nice straw man. I've not once done this. Russia has put on their list of demands the denazification of Ukraine but to say they "trying to justify [the military operation] with the Nazis" is a disengenuous oversimplification. They are part of the problem in Ukraine. And a larger part than you and many others are aware of &/or willing to admit.
The govt in Kyiv has implemented blatantly Russiophobic policies & has been slaughtering Russians in their homes for years right across the border from Russia. There's a dangerous suicidal nationalism in Ukraine that's been emboldened by NATO as part of their anti-Russia agenda and gotten out of hand. Nazis aren't the entire reason for the military operation but it's not to be dismissed if you want to be honest about the conflict. I dunno what the single root cause is if you could put your finger on it but it's more about a Kyiv regime that came out of a coup in 2014 & has become too unstable & dangerous in various ways for Russian national security. Nazis & other forms of similar extreme nationalism in Ukraine being just part of the larger issue, with the situation just getting worse & worse.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
So just to be clear, do you support Russia invading Ukraine?
A simple "yes" or "no" will do. Or is that oversimplifying things too much? In other words hard to spin?
Since youre so highly informed on the Russia Ukraine situation and it's long history, do you have any idea where this hatered of Russian came from? Any idea at all? I suppose Russia always played nice and never ever meddled in Ukraine's politics or possibly annexed some parts? I'm sure if it did, you'd have some insight on this, after all you are like a neutral observer and call it as it is with a neutral perspective, am I right kiwi?
Again, Putin doesn't care about nazis, atleast not in the grand scheme of things. They don't pose a real threath to Russia. NATO does. It's all about NATO and wanting to keep Ukraine as a buffer state.
(Site Administrator)
> So just to be clear, do you support Russia invading Ukraine?
I didn't say that. This is an armed conflict not a game of rugby & it doesn't involve me.
> do you have any idea where this hatered of Russian came from?
are you going to try & justify the Russophobia of Ukrainian nazis here?
> I suppose Russia always played nice and never ever meddled in Ukraine's politics
define "meddle" .. they're neighbours with deep social & political ties. It's practically impossible for there not to be political ties today. It was the US who was caught orchestrating the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime in 2014 - has Russia ever done this?
As far as annexation goes, I'll just plop this here for you to have a look at:
> Again, Putin doesn't care about nazis
oh you know what Putin cares about?
Did you watch the hour-long address he gave 3 days prior to the military operation?
How about the one on 24th Feb announcing the operation?
> It's all about NATO and wanting to keep Ukraine as a buffer state.
that's not entirely wrong. Well done. 1/10
why do you think NATO & the regime in Kyiv insisted on leaving NATO membership on the table despite Russian objections, refusing to even discuss Russia's concerns? Why did Zelensky write it into the constitution? He ran on a ticket of making peace with Russia & won by a good margin.... then later completely reversed this decision & implemented a range of anti-Russia & anti-Russian Ukrainian policies.. what happened there?
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"I didn't say that. This is an armed conflict not a game of rugby & it doesn't involve me."
So you are unable to answer this?? As I said a simple yes or no is hard to spin, isn't it?
I mean it's where this discussion starts and you don't know, but have a shit load of opinions on subjects surrounding it.
"are you going to try & justify the Russophobia of Ukrainian nazis here?"
No. Just trying to ask if you see how one sided and biased you sound.
"Did you watch the hour-long address he gave 3 days prior to the military operation?"
Not the whole thing. Looked through the transcrip how many times NATO was mentioned and how many times Nazies were mention. NATO won by a land slide.
(Site Administrator)
> So you are unable to answer this??
answer what exactly - which side I'm cheering for in an armed conflict in Eastern Europe?
is that your question?
you haven't yet addressed the questions I asked underneath the above videos - the videos you didn't watch in full but somehow did a word count of & used that to reinforce your hot take.
Here's another video you can watch some time - it shows the conflict that's been going on for 8 years that bled into this one which US & frenz say they want to turn into another Afghanistan for Russia:
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"answer what exactly - which side I'm cheering for in an armed conflict in Eastern Europe?
is that your question?"
Is the question really that complicated? Do you support Russia invading Ukraine? YES / NO?
(Site Administrator)
The situation's complicated, the question's overly simplistic & imo inappropriate & irrelevant.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"Yeah it is complicated & I don't look at it that way."
Sure. Everything you say is on the side of Russia (or rather making the west the baddies, because you can't diectly support the war), but when asked directly about real-world consequences, you all of a sudden are so neutral.
Maybe you should look it at that way. Looking past this political BS, there are people dying. Regular people who just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Women, children, soldiers, some unwilling from the Russian side.
(Site Administrator)
"when asked directly about real-world consequences"
you didn't ask about real world consequences, idiot.
"Maybe you should look it at..."
lol, fuck outa here simpleton
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"....the question's overly simplistic & imo inappropriate & irrelevant."
Just saw your edited comment. You should have stuck with the first one, at least that was somehow relatable.
"inappropriate & irrelevant"
Holy shit the amount of dodging is unbelievable.
Would it be more clear if I asked how many dead children are you willing to accept that Russia gets it's way?
You don't have to answer. I think I got what I needed. You just can't admit it.
(Site Administrator)
let's pretend what you think is important lmao
your questioning of my motives just goes to show you have no way of refuting what I say - it's pure copium
cope harder
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
I have to question your motivations because you're unable to answer a simple question. That in itself shows there's some kind of contradiction going on with you.
(Site Administrator)
it's obvious you asked a loaded question & now you're salty I didn't take the bait
better luck next time, fuckface
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
idk, for most people it's pretty easy to answer.
For you who's above all this propaganda BS should be even easier to give a clear-cut answer.
(Site Administrator)
"idk, ..."
yeah you don't
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"yeah you don't"
Thus the question: Do you support Russia invading Ukraine?
Anti-west VS. Invasion and killing thousands of innocent people.
Moral dilemma, huh?
(Old Spike)
LOL, AGAIN HAS NO ARGUMENT, LOSES HIS SHIT. (unintended caps)
(dumb cunt)
OMG you grasp at the thinnest of straws...
(Site Administrator)
maybe Russia should have gone to UNSC & lied, failed to get greenlight then sent in military force anyway..
..then implemented a "shock and awe" campaign to smash the state to bits & stood around with their finger up their ass wondering what to do afterwards. That's the proper way to run a foreign policy huh?
what could possibly go wrong
(Old Spike)
This post is getting more entertaining by the minute....
(Old Spike)
Whataboutism-(adj)
a made up word used to try to excuse democrats for any-and-everything negative that they have done in an attempt not to take any responsibility for their blatant hypocrisy while simultaneously attack their political opponents for lesser crimes in order clutch pearls in a fit of fake outrage to push their political agenda.
ex 1
Rational Individual: "Hey man why are you so upset about Jan 6 when trump supporters only walked into a building waved American flags and broke a single bench but BLM did 2 billion dollars of damages over 200 days and Kamala Harris encouraged them and Bailed out rioters ?
Brainwashed CNN Zombie: "That's whataboutism, we had to make up a fictional word to conceal, and excuse our hypocrisy.
Rational Individual: " Oh You had to do this because there is no word in the English language that exists that serves this function-
if trump supporters would have burned some cars it would have been deemed a peaceful protest!"
ex2
Son : Dad
"Why when George George Floyd was killed was there so much outrage even though he was arrested like 50 times and he Pointed a gun at a pregnant Black women's abdomen while his homies ransacked her house during a home invasion?"
But then when Ashli Babbitt- a war veteran who served in Iraq- was protesting in a public office (the office of the people) against election fraud was gunned down like an animal though and the media ignored it even though she had no criminal record?"
Father: "Thats whataboutism Son,we live in a communist hellhole where the media controls peoples minds like zombies because they are weakminded, susceptible to brainwashing and propaganda so they elected a geriatric dementia patient into the white house due to their Trump Derangement Syndrome."
Son: "Thanks Dad, I feel alot Better!"
Dad: "Good Night Son!"
(dumb cunt)
The whole 'Nazi's in Ukraine' argument is completely stupid and counterfactual. Svoboda, Azov, and the extreme right didn't get a single seat in the Ukrainian parliament in 2019. This on-the-ground account clearly states they were never dominant: https://bit.ly/3KCHCb3
The “Svoboda ultra nationalist party” if still active at all are not part of Zelensky’s “Servant of the People” party. That picture could change after Ukraine wins this war, but I doubt it. Most normal people, even in Ukraine, do not embrace exremist ideologies lightly...
Meanwhile in russia:
(Site Administrator)
it's not counterfactual, you just don't know how nazis & other far-right extremists fit into the political picture in Ukraine & how they've contributed to the course of events
you wrote a fucking novel about the geopolitical situation & didn't mention the Minsk agreement once so I wouldn't be surprised if you have no clue about domestic politics in Ukraine either
nice cartoon by the way. Bummer for you that you don't have anything that exists in the real world, eg..
(dumb cunt)
OK. Here is a random bunch of pictures of russian neo nazi's that I pulled off google providing irrefutable proof! (sarcasm) of russias malevolent and insidious problem with nazis. Grow up and get a life dude...btw, this is the last time i will engage your ignorance.
(dumb cunt)
OK. Here is a random bunch of pictures of russian neo nazi's that I pulled off google providing irrefutable proof! (sarcasm) of russias malevolent and insidious problem with nazis. Grow up and get a life dude...btw, this is the last time i will engage your ignorance.
(Site Administrator)
first photo is of private contractors with no formal attachment to the Russian government & no political power in Russia.
2nd photo is blurry & the flag on the right is not the Russian flag.
3rd photo is what appears to be a neo-Nazi Russians in the armed forces.
CONGRATULATIONS YOU FOUND ONE!!!
"this is the last time i will engage your ignorance"
good, you're an opinionated blue-pilled moron with the most ridiculous takes I've seen. Imagine writing pages of drivel about the tensions between Ukraine & Russia without even mentioning the Minsk accords, spending all that time looking at western OSINT stuff without having any idea about the UAF buildup on the other side of the line of control. Do us both a favour & kindly scrape yourself off the bottom of my shoe. Thanks, bye.
(dumb cunt)
We are all waiting with baited breath on your illustrious book about the minsk accords. Please enlighten us your lordship! I bet it goes something like this 'Nazis & stuff, & nazis did this & I am resurchur'
(Site Administrator)
"this is the last time i will engage..."
liar
(dumb cunt)
Finally! You admit to your ignorance! Checkmate dickhead! ROFL
(Site Administrator)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity#United_States_involvement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol
you can thank me later BlueAnon