Antifa Theory

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Antifa: A Look at the Antifascist Movement Confronting White Supremacists in the Streets

^ Interview starts at 2:45

Guest is Mark Bray, lecturer at Dartmouth College, author of a new book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook.

Must be nice to be able to invoke Goldwin's Law to counter all criticism.

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danmanjones's picture

Still not sure how to post more than 1 video.... Here's part 2:

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puttefnask's picture

I really wanted to stop listening after a few minutes, but I have to listen in order to understand how retarded these people are.

And they have armed, like armed with guns, groups going to protests now? Do they do it at gun protests too? Because that would be amazing, in the hypocritical sense.

Unless you differentiate these groups completely because they're pro anarchy, which is pro evil.

Being pro-anarchy while protesting anti-homosexual and anti-trans groups , is like saying: "I want them to have rights, until I succeed my main goal of taking them all away."

Funny how they show a clip that shows a white supremacist telling them that they hate Trump for letting his daughter marry a Jew.

And Mark's response is that Trump is hiding behind the fact that his daughter is married to a Jew and he has grand children who are Jewish.

If Trump really was a nazi and wanted nazi support, having Jewish family members would be the absolute worst thing in the world. Like, really.

Making it out to be like Trump set up his daughter with a Jewish man years prior to a high-risk presidential run is giving him too much credit as a genius, which you also state on a daily basis that he's not.

Real arguments are hard to confront when you get your news from Stephen Colbert, a sad clown's last tribute to socialism.

People are just watching it just in case Jon Stewart does a cameo, and until that happens, nobody's laughing. They're only confirming their biases, not unlike a racist with a smart phone, pestering their remaining friends on social media with racist imagery until they unfriend him, because at some point, they've had enough with his shitty ideology.

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Anarchy comes in many shapes and is greatly misunderstood concept ( your thinking mad max , that's what most people think ).
Anyone who protests and expects "their" government to respond and change can not call themselves anarchist .

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PizzaBoi's picture

That Dartmouth professor looks like a guy who was raised in the suburbs his whole life, and has never once worked any type of blue collar job (service, construction, retail).

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Grothesk's picture

This is very informative and discussion-worthy video...I voted it a 5/5 because others are voting it down (2.8 rating with 4 votes, and that's AFTER my 5/5 rating).  Vote this content up.

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danmanjones's picture

Yeah it's quite informative.

There's a glaring problem with Antifa in USA before even discussing their highly flawed theory - there is no neonazi problem in the US. If they're not careful they'll help create one by being completely unreasonable pricks & acting like the armed wing of this extreme PC culture that most people hate & goes against American tradition.

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Grothesk's picture

I can see elements of your argument here, but Nazi flags were being unabashadly waved in Charlottesville:

There's no question Nazis/neo-Nazis are present in America.  Second source of Nazi flags in Charlottesville: http://time.com/4900385/charlottesville-nazi-kkk-swastika-germany-reaction

"If they're not careful they'll help create one by..."

Individuals and even groups are responsible for their own actions.  There is nothing *I* nor *you* can or will do that will force Neo-Nazis to come out of the woodwork.  There may be things you, I, or some amorphous group may do that can embolden them, but attacking them in the streets doesn't really seem like something that will underscore neo-Nazi sentiment.  At the end of the day the Nazis/neo-Nazis will pull themselves up by their own bootstraps or get funded by something larger than themselves and they will be responsible for their own actions.  No one looks back on the Charlie Hebdo attack and asks who is to blame...the shooters who did it were to blame.  People who say, "oh, but those Charlie Hebdo guys were provoking them" are fools and I am certain you would not ally yourself with that argument as well.  The people who act are the ones who hold responsibility.

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danmanjones's picture

It's not illegal in USA to wave a nazi flag. If you want to live in a land governed by law with freedom of expression then you have to accept the fringe that comes with it.

20 yr old Karl Marx disciples are ignorant at best & have no right to censor anyone. A lot of them identify anyone wearing a MAGA hat or brandishing a Kekistan flag as a Nazi which according to their doctrine gives them the right to assault them.... is that okay with you?

Follow-up question: what percentage of the US population are neo-nazis?

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Ozmen's picture
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'They need to be opposed by any means necessary'. Including limiting free speech and all those other things that make a society free thus turning yourselves into national-socialists? You dumb cuck. This guy really hasn't understood the point of freedom. It needs to exist even if the individual doesn't want it.

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