For the record, the guy that Tim has as a guest on his show right now, LOL, would not be my first choice to talk about this subject. He's, oh I dunno, a bit disturbed in my opinion. If you look at his YouTube history and some of the claims he's made and meltdowns he's had you'll see what I'm referring to. Both Tim and Joe Rogan are interested in this subject but frustratingly fumbling in their treatment of it for someone like me who has studied it very closely.
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