I forgot to add, it's all lies and hit pieces against the Glorious CCP !
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Falun Gong disinformation
I forgot to add, it's all lies and hit pieces against the Glorious CCP !
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(Old Spike)
the voice is chris chappel off china uncensored fame.
china uncensored is a falun gong front. look it up.
all of these "organ harvesting" lies trace back to them.
(Long Spike)
You don't believe it or are most likely just playing your wumao troll self but sorry, organ harvesting is going on in China and that fact is believed by people here. You can run around in circles and scream your bullshit all you want but organ harvesting is rampant in China and has been for decades. Your bosses are evil. Deny reality all you want. Everyone knows what is actually going on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China
(Old Spike)
Let me know when you've read this
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/09/30/reports-china-organ-harvesting-cult-falun-gong/
(Old Spike)
In June 2019, a London-based organization called the China Tribunal published a report claiming that the Chinese government has been systematically executing and harvesting the organs of members of Falun Gong, a leading force of opposition to Beijing in the diaspora.
Rumours of the CCP harvesting organs unethically and in chilling contexts have circulated for decades, and this article actually goes beyond rumours to confirm it's true, at least according to one source:
"But Francis Delmonico, a surgeon at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, says that although there is evidence that organs were taken from prisoners in the past — which he condemns — he is not convinced by the SocArXiv evidence because it is not direct.
Max is showing here that the latest wave of allegations come from highly questionable sources, sources with a motivation to make shit up to damage an acknowledged enemy, the CCP. So what I would question is whether there's a systematic program in place to target and harvest organs from Falun Gung members and I would treat indirect claims they make with a high degree of scrutiny. But the CCP does harvest organs - they have, and I would bet they still do. Not because I have direct evidence, but because it just seems both logical and inevitable under that kind of system. Why wouldn't this go on? Of course it would. Is it happening today, right now? Can't say, but wouldn't be surprised.
(Old Spike)
But the CCP does harvest organs - they have, and I would bet they still do. Not because I have direct evidence, but because it just seems both logical and inevitable under that kind of system
This is where you go from being ignorant to believing in lies.
You don't know anything about organ transplants in China or their system in general. Your personal ideology makes you fear the place & so you assume the worst. Rather than taking the effort to find out what's going on there you choose to believe in lies, or assume they're true (it's hard to tell you switched your stance like 3 times there).
there is evidence that organs were taken from prisoners in the past
yeah, this isn't denied. The Falun Gong has turned that fact into an ongoing disinformation campaign with a new set of crude "documentaries" about it each year full of the same disinfo, featuring the same set of actors. Usually the same 2 Canadian "experts" - David Matas & David Kilgour. Meanwhile your government pumps millions into FG each year as part of its foreign language media promotion. Washington does similar but has a bunch of different ways of funneling money into them. It's shady as fuck.
(Old Spike)
When assessing the guilt of the accused, their past criminal behavior is usually admissable. The fact that the CCP did it before, and it's the same people and the same system built on the NEED to lie constantly about especially such things, the past record throws a lot weight towards "Ya probably" on the subject of organ harvesting. Short of an unprecedented leak that confirms with direct evidence I can only look at the variables and consider the issue probabilistically.
(Old Spike)
That's because you refuse to look into it, or don't know how.
"organ harvesting" is just a nasty-sounding term. They were transplanting organs from prisoners without consent. There was no law about consent then. A lot has changed. You seem to have made up your mind about what's happening though so have fun with that.
(Long Spike)
With your direct access to CCP thinking and directives, any disagreement with your statements on Spiked Nation, no matter how slight, is simply ridiculous.
(Old Spike)
I meant to say executed prisoners. Not live ones.
(Short Spike)
That article is BS. If you've been to any buddhist temples, you'll know the symbol swastika is actually an ancient chinese symbol in buddhism that was appropriated by Hitler. It's the symbol for Suparshvanatha, one of the enlightened teachers in buddhism. This article shows it and says, "see..far right".
That's all I had to read to know the article was garbage.
(Old Spike)
If that's all it takes to call BS on the article then no doubt you'd find nothing the FG ever says to be anything more than straight up disinfo.