At first they said no, not to provoke Russia, now they send em.
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Nakey (Site Administrator)
it's the half a million new ruzzian conscripts being shipped to the front that provoked a lot of new armour getting shipped to ukraine including Bradleys.
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danman (Site Administrator)
til the last Ukrainian!!
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TheWeirdo (cool)
It's as if they think Ukraine has a chance to win this.
Like Putin said, it's only going to prolong their suffering.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
some people said they could take ukraine in two days, putin said two weeks in 2014. almost a year later and russia's putting anti-missile systems on the roofs of buildings
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TheWeirdo (cool)
Yep, they fucked up bad.
For a lot of reasons.
But fact is, Russia is going to win this.
A handfull of tanks is just going to result in more dead ukranians.
I never seam to hear the western media talking about the heavy losses of the Ukraine army.
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danman (Site Administrator)
AA on the roof of the Russian ministry of defense building considering the situation isn't exactly a desperation move. The whitehouse has had AA mounted in the roof for years & there haven't been any wars on that continent. So whatever that NATO shill talking point about the AA on Russia's MoD building is supposed to be implying, ask them about their pack leader's situation.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
russia fucks up bad every war
for the same reasons
russia's supposed to win but its always been about making the win untenable. they got to take all of ukraine and have enough to hold what they take and have enough gear on the border to stop its new neighbours from walking in
how big are your hands cause its looking like 112 leopard 2 tanks are going to urkraine. a handful of countries has offered them up. then add the challenger 2's from the uk and the abrams from the states. close to 150 modern tanks also about 150 infantry fighting vehicles made up of bradleys, marders and cv90's. can't forget but ukraine does have tanks and captured tanks. they also have himars and patriot missiles
everything results in more dead ukrainians, when it started and before anyone gave them anything, dead ukrainians is what you got. it doesnt matter what happens. thats all you're going to get. this isn't a modern western war. they're not looking for the surrender so they can go back home. they want the land under ukrainian feet. this, like every other war of conquest russia's done in the last 100 years, ends with genocides and deportations of its inhabitants. surrendering for them leads to a worse outcome than death
and you'll never hear russian media talking about the heavy losses of the russian army. how weird is that? its like neither government want to lower moral of its soldiers. so western media is stuck reporting on stuff it can verify which is basically videos on youtube, so unless its a tv network thats taking a break from recommending you asking your doctor if horse dewormer is right for you. you'll probably be hearing about liquidated russians
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danman (Site Administrator)
a wall of text from an ignorant canadian clown.
what a great use of time it would be to read that crap. lol.
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TheWeirdo (cool)
I have 10 inches from the tip of my thumb to to tip of my pinky.
And Russia has bigger hands than that.
While Ukrainians are busy repairing the damaged power grid the Russians are prepping up.
Almost one year into this war and something like 100 000 dead Ukrainians, the question af manpower and resources come into play, and they will need a lot of both to manage those tanks.
At this point, Ukraine is 100% dependent on foreign aid, and they will have to show results if they want to keep it.
Its not politics, its math.
Russia is going to win this war Sal :)
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
almost a year in... did someone fail math class or are they just missing fingers? i guess poor training and logistics somehow turn into a winning combination
you know how many countries still exist because they were 100% dependent on foreign aid?
we supplied them with guns and equipment almost a year ago because we knew they'd still be here 10 months on. we took ukrainians and sent them to nato countries for training because we knew they'd still be here 10 months on. were supplying them tanks in 2 months because we know they'll still be here. russia should win, but they'll never annex another country again they'll be fighting insurrections for decades. thats worth 100 billion dollars, were getting the russian collapse at a bargain bin prices. on a side note, middle eastern countries that aren't our allies are somewhat dependent on that grain from ukraine. nothing like hunger to get those people to re-evaluation their geopolitcal stances
i'm wondering how many retired military service men with experience with those tanks are now willing to go to ukraine and fight
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(Old Spike)
At first they said no, not to provoke Russia, now they send em.
(Site Administrator)
it's the half a million new ruzzian conscripts being shipped to the front that provoked a lot of new armour getting shipped to ukraine including Bradleys.
(Site Administrator)
til the last Ukrainian!!
(cool)
It's as if they think Ukraine has a chance to win this.
Like Putin said, it's only going to prolong their suffering.
(Long Spike)
some people said they could take ukraine in two days, putin said two weeks in 2014. almost a year later and russia's putting anti-missile systems on the roofs of buildings
(cool)
Yep, they fucked up bad.
For a lot of reasons.
But fact is, Russia is going to win this.
A handfull of tanks is just going to result in more dead ukranians.
I never seam to hear the western media talking about the heavy losses of the Ukraine army.
(Site Administrator)
AA on the roof of the Russian ministry of defense building considering the situation isn't exactly a desperation move. The whitehouse has had AA mounted in the roof for years & there haven't been any wars on that continent. So whatever that NATO shill talking point about the AA on Russia's MoD building is supposed to be implying, ask them about their pack leader's situation.
(Long Spike)
russia fucks up bad every war
for the same reasons
russia's supposed to win but its always been about making the win untenable. they got to take all of ukraine and have enough to hold what they take and have enough gear on the border to stop its new neighbours from walking in
how big are your hands cause its looking like 112 leopard 2 tanks are going to urkraine. a handful of countries has offered them up. then add the challenger 2's from the uk and the abrams from the states. close to 150 modern tanks also about 150 infantry fighting vehicles made up of bradleys, marders and cv90's. can't forget but ukraine does have tanks and captured tanks. they also have himars and patriot missiles
everything results in more dead ukrainians, when it started and before anyone gave them anything, dead ukrainians is what you got. it doesnt matter what happens. thats all you're going to get. this isn't a modern western war. they're not looking for the surrender so they can go back home. they want the land under ukrainian feet. this, like every other war of conquest russia's done in the last 100 years, ends with genocides and deportations of its inhabitants. surrendering for them leads to a worse outcome than death
and you'll never hear russian media talking about the heavy losses of the russian army. how weird is that? its like neither government want to lower moral of its soldiers. so western media is stuck reporting on stuff it can verify which is basically videos on youtube, so unless its a tv network thats taking a break from recommending you asking your doctor if horse dewormer is right for you. you'll probably be hearing about liquidated russians
(Site Administrator)
a wall of text from an ignorant canadian clown.
what a great use of time it would be to read that crap. lol.
(cool)
I have 10 inches from the tip of my thumb to to tip of my pinky.
And Russia has bigger hands than that.
While Ukrainians are busy repairing the damaged power grid the Russians are prepping up.
Almost one year into this war and something like 100 000 dead Ukrainians, the question af manpower and resources come into play, and they will need a lot of both to manage those tanks.
At this point, Ukraine is 100% dependent on foreign aid, and they will have to show results if they want to keep it.
Its not politics, its math.
Russia is going to win this war Sal :)
(Long Spike)
almost a year in... did someone fail math class or are they just missing fingers? i guess poor training and logistics somehow turn into a winning combination
you know how many countries still exist because they were 100% dependent on foreign aid?
we supplied them with guns and equipment almost a year ago because we knew they'd still be here 10 months on. we took ukrainians and sent them to nato countries for training because we knew they'd still be here 10 months on. were supplying them tanks in 2 months because we know they'll still be here. russia should win, but they'll never annex another country again they'll be fighting insurrections for decades. thats worth 100 billion dollars, were getting the russian collapse at a bargain bin prices. on a side note, middle eastern countries that aren't our allies are somewhat dependent on that grain from ukraine. nothing like hunger to get those people to re-evaluation their geopolitcal stances
i'm wondering how many retired military service men with experience with those tanks are now willing to go to ukraine and fight