The average age of a person who dies from COVID is 82.5 years, which is higher than your life expectancy. The death rate appears to be 10 times lower than has been reported by pharma-sponsored media, at least in this context. Silver lining - the term anti-vaxxer has lost all meaning. There were 17,000 deaths attributable to COVID in the UK since the start of the "pandemic". Let that sink in - I'm still processing it. I continue to fail to consider the absolute worst possible case of what I suspect has been going on. I keep doing that - I can't catch up to the crazy and the evil. It's simply not possible - it's like a runaway train now.
Please see below for death registrations for 2020 and 2021 (provisional) that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions, England and Wales.
- 2020: 9400 (0-64: 1549 / 65 and over: 7851)
- 2021 Q1: 6483 (0-64: 1560/ 65 and over: 4923)
- 2021 Q2: 346 (0-64: 153/ 65 and over: 193)
- 2021 Q3: 1142 (0-64: 512/ 65 and over: 630)
I think this was as much driven by the hijacking of the ideologically possessed as it was just pure evil and greed. The trick now is, as this comes out, deprogramming the zombies and bringing the perpetrators, which includes those who pushed the narrative and knew better, to justice without all of this devolving into lynchings and executions without trial.
Head Cancer expert reports that last year there were 50,000 excess deaths from Cancer in the UK due to it not having been caught early enough because of the COVID hysteria provoked by the media on behalf of their clients, big pharma. Just like with Trump, they took something true and amplified it 10 fold to sell you a line of horseshit and get you to do what they need you to do for psychopaths to keep their power.
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(Old Spike)
15:00 ...
Lets say you have a heart attack, in the forrest you are dangling between life and death, some guy stops to help you but gets a phone call to help someone move a piano, he rides off without calling an ambulance, he just lets you die in the forrest.
Did that guy kill you?
(Old Spike)
Hey Dude I thought you said this COVID thing was really dangerous? What gives?
(Old Spike)
for free? your mother
(Old Spike)
The very definition of "to give" is to relinquish without compensation.
Hey you said COVID was really dangerous - why did you lie like that? Were you fooled? I thought you were Jesus and you worked for the FBI and CIA - how come you didn't realize?
(Old Spike)
Are you telling yourself covid is not dangerous? your numbers are fucked 15:00
and you don't believe in Jesus? Iesa btw
(Site Administrator)
US, Canada & Australia covid death rates aren't slowing
(Old Spike)
Get the fuck out of here shithead it's over - we know the actual death rate now. Aren't you worried about prison time or are you that confident that you won't be brought to justice for what you've done?
(Site Administrator)
Not sure why you refer to yourself as "we" unless you have multiple personality disorder.
Anyhoo.. does the below US data look like "threat extremely low" to you?
(Old Spike)
Why are you showing graphs of garbage data? You're embarassing yourself. This isn't the "data" you're looking for - post data of deaths by COVID, or get the fuck off this website.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnootherunderlyingcauses?s=09
It's over dude - you're done. Do you have a defense plan? Have you contacted a lawyer?
Please see below for death registrations for 2020 and 2021 (provisional) that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions, England and Wales.
I'm curious to know what the exit plan is for poeple like you? There must be a contingency for the scam going sideways - will be fascinating to see what it is.
(Site Administrator)
the data I posted is the official stats for those countries as reported by their national health services.
If you prefer to look at UK data we can do that. Below is the UK data according to John Hopkins...
Doesn't look to me like they're out of the woods but it's better than the wave they had a year ago in terms of deaths.
(Old Spike)
HEY - FUCKFACE - The UK is among the only western nations that have released deaths due to COVID data. You are showing the garbage data that includes underlying conditions, death WITH COVID (not due to COVID), etc. - data that hasn't been curated as it was for this UK FOIA request.
It's the subject of the video post this comment section is referring to - it's what's discussed the video above. Do you have a lawyer, or are you really in New Zealand? Don't you get that once the full extent of the scam becomes clear to everyone we're going to demand prison time for people like you? You can claim to have been fooled by bad actors but if there's any proof you were aware of what was happening you should face some kind of penalty. Don't you think?
The data from the UK is not "out-of-the-woods" data - there were never any WOODS. It's all been bullshit - the UK data is showing deaths due to COVID for the ENTIRE duration of the pandemic - it's 17,000, with the average age of a person dying due to COVID being 82.5 years of age. It's over - you should probably run.
(Site Administrator)
> the UK data is showing deaths due to COVID for the ENTIRE duration of the pandemic - it's 17,000
no, this is incorrect.
you're assuming that the only people who died as a result of catching COVID are those who had no other health issues at all. This is a false assumption.
(Old Spike)
"A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma)."
- https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/12/behind-the-headlines-counting-covid..."
Yes, I am assuming that the only people who died of COVID had no other health issues at all if the average age of a death is 82.5 years old and the virus on its own is so harmless (even Delta). Yes, the FOIA request has shown us what was meant by "surveillance purposes" - shows us the error delta in terms of determining actual impact, actual threat. Only 17,000 died - the rest were all really old, fat, had some other fatal disease, etc. Basically, if you died for any reason at all (that bracket excluding trauma is bullshit when the hospital gets $300K for every COVID death), your blood was tested and if it came back COVID positive your death was listed as a COVID death. As a result the numbers that have been reported, and which you keep trying to use after they've been discredited, brings 170,000 (some UK estimates conflate additional metrics to reach this number) down to 17,000.
Meanwhile, over 50,000 people died due to Cancer because they missed chemo or were unable to get a checkup because of the COVID hysteria driven by folks like you. So, Danman, did those people die from Cancer or did they die from you?
Please see below for death registrations for 2020 and 2021 (provisional) that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions, England and Wales.
(Site Administrator)
> the hospital gets $300K for every COVID death
where did you hear this?
US hospitals were receiving a 20% bump for COVID patients as part of a stimulus package but if we're talking about UK I'm unable to find anything other than a debunking of a rumour about £120 payout to doctors (excerpt below). $300k per covid death sounds like absolute rubbish. It would put their payouts for these deaths at $46 billion, that's over half of the additional funding they've given the NHS to fight the disease.
(Old Spike)
You gotta start watching JRE man - you don't seem to know much about anything. You're constantly asking me to help you inform yourself. Watch the Malone and McCullugh interviews to understand how the hospitaler industry works and how it is being warped by COVID "pandemic relief" incentives. There's a reason why the coroner - the person who finally decides what killed someone - doesn't work for the hospital, Dan.
(Site Administrator)
> the hospital gets $300K for every COVID death
where did you hear this?
(Old Spike)
Just told you - let me know what you think of it once you've checked it out. A Spotify membership is free - get one today! In the Malone interview you'll find the start of the conversation at 1:01:00. 300K is if you hit every box on the death incentive list, so tracking a patient through COVID positive, COVID hospitalized, COVID on a ventilator, death with COVID and/or death due to COVID. I believe the bonuses stack.
(Site Administrator)
So if I understand what you're saying, Malone said it.
Surely you can point to a source beyond Malone so it can be verified, or did you just repeat it because he said it?
(Old Spike)
Actually I misquoted Malone - he said 30,000 for each death WITH COVID, not from COVID. Not 300K, which makes sense because with the inflated stats 300K would bankrupt most nations. 30K per fake COVID death is just right - that's what we've got. And yes I trust what I hear on Rogan much more than anything I'm going to get from a gov link or pharma-sponsored MSM story. It's the hospital industry receiving unprecented revenue for anything related to COVID that's the point - there's evey incentive to maximize every stat you can pump out with the word COVID attached to it. The bonus can range from 3000 - 30,000 or higher - why don't you get the deets on it and report back to us. Oh shit nevermind here we go - a rare factcheck.org that actual validates what Malone said: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
If the hospitals only received bonuses for treating COVID edge cases where there's no "other thing" that's actually killing the person - the 17,000 who actually died from COVID - I don't think there would have been a pandemic at all. This has all been a big mutually beneficial marketing sqeeze and money-grab, at the expense of tens or hundreds of thousands of lives per nation in which these crimes were committed.
(Site Administrator)
> the hospital gets $300K for every COVID death
> The bonus can range from 3000 - 300,000 depending on the circumstance - why don't you get the deets on it and report back to us.
why is it up to me to verify the bullshit you say?
We were talking about UK and you gave a fixed number of $300k. That number seems to be changing & I'm still unsure what country you're referring to.
I don't take Malone's word for it either - he's out for fame, this is obvious. Did he mention where he got those figures from? You don't seem to have a clue how to verify anything, instead it appears that you trust anything on Joe Rogan's show. That's fucking retarded. Since you've wasted my time, tell me how much you paid to attend journalism school. Cheer me up with a chuckle.
(Old Spike)
I immediately corrected the figure once I went to the timestamp and rewatched what he said. It's actually a bit higher than he said according to the fact check below. I actually care about accuracy - you're a propagandist.
The FOIA revelation comes from the UK - of course you wouldn't be foolish enough as to think anyone's going to be distracted by you even implying the same scam hasn't occurred in the US. The US COVID Death rate has been 7-10 less than has been projected by the pharma-sponsored MSM. The hospital incentive program is the one in the US - those were US figures he was citing. I wonder what the UK incentive program was like - why don't you get the deets on that and report back to us will you. You're so absurd. Here's one confirming link for the US figures I've found (I'm sure there are many others) if you'd like to avoid it again: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
What's amazing is how every thing Dr. Malone said checks out. I would have expected some credible pushback but there's nothing - just people who have been fooled who haven't watched the interview or propagandists like you doing what you do.
(Site Administrator)
> What's amazing is how every thing Dr. Malone said checks out
What I find amazing is your inability to comprehend information.
For example, that factcheck page you linked doesn't mention $3000-$300,000 anywhere, so you're still on the hook for those revised figures.
All it says is that for uninsured patients, the medicare payments work out to around $13k, or $39k if they go on a ventilator. This covers the cost of the treatment.
Your implication that hospitals are financially incentivised to boost the COVID death rate doesn't check out at all. You've mixed an anecdote from a grifter about the US health system with figures from the UK, mis-quoted what he even said & even on your "corrected" numbers you still have it wrong.
Here's your original claim:
> Basically, if you died for any reason at all (that bracket excluding trauma is bullshit when the hospital gets $300K for every COVID death), your blood was tested and if it came back COVID positive your death was listed as a COVID death. As a result the numbers that have been reported, and which you keep trying to use after they've been discredited, brings 170,000 (some UK estimates conflate additional metrics to reach this number) down to 17,000.
When you make such bold claims you need evidence to back it up. Otherwise you're just talking shit. Do some due diligence & stop talking so much shit.
If your best source of information is the Rogan podcast, as you've said above, & you insist on such a dogmatic approach, insulting people who don't align with your hair-brained theories at every turn, then you're just a public menace. You've sucked almost all the air out of the topic on here with your medical misinformation mumbo jumbo.
(Old Spike)
WTF are you talking about, and why are you misquoting me? This is what I wrote:
"Actually I misquoted Malone - he said 30,000 for each death WITH COVID, not from COVID. Not 300K, which makes sense because with the inflated stats 300K would bankrupt most nations. 30K per fake COVID death is just right - that's what we've got."
I then provided you with a link supporting what Malone said, including figures that you just cited. I know you know this - your job is to obfuscate, not clarify. When you stack them it's over 50 grand per COVID death if the person was first put on a ventilator. Your thoughts, which aren't actually our own thought, on this? There's an enormous financial incentive to list people as having died WITH COVID, an enormous financial incentive to put people on ventilators. There's some evidence that in younger folks a ventilator is a death sentence.
Now we get the actual death count, and it's less than the regular flu. WHAT THE FUCK? Why are you still even trying to make argument in support of the "pandemic response". You have the figures now - 17,000 died in the UK. Extrapolate for the US - who should be charged and what do you think the punishments should be?
(Site Administrator)
> I then provided you with a link supporting what Malone said,
No you didn't.
You provided a link to a factcheck article that mentioned Medicare payouts of $13k-$39k.
Neither of these figures is $30k and they're not payouts for COVID deaths as you asserted.
They're payouts for COVID treatments to hospitals for patients who have no private insurance.
Your original point that hospitals are incentivized to sign a death as COVID is utter horseshit.
You didn't even get the country right. You're trying to mash UK & US to support your conspiracy theory.
(Old Spike)
"You provided a link to a factcheck article that mentioned Medicare payouts of $13k-$39k.
Neither of these figures is $30k and they're not payouts for COVID deaths as you asserted."
^ The very definition of obtuse - the point isn't the amount, it's the incentive. When you went and watched the Malone clip you saw he said "It's about 30 grand I think" - turns out it's 50K if you play your cards right. You're hilarious - what happened in the UK happened in the US - how dumb do you think people are? That's the problem with the CCP - they think people are less intelligent than they actually are.
But let's just stick with the UK then, shall we? Incredible fraud, don't you think? You won't admit it no matter how it's presented to you - you can't. You're not allowed to. It's over - as is always the case with sociopaths like you, you burned your wick too quick and then are left standing there naked in the wind. The only question is what are we going to do with you?
(Site Administrator)
> the point isn't the amount, it's the incentive
Yes & I addressed this point because that was the point you were trying to make.
You tried to back it up & failed miserably.
Pick a country and try to prove the point with FACTS, not conjecture from a sketchy guy on Rogan's podcast.
(Old Spike)
You really are desperate, eh? Danman, it's over - someone needs to tell you that the fact that you keep trying to prop an old narrative is only exposing what you are. Here are the stats again:
Please see below for death registrations for 2020 and 2021 (provisional) that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions, England and Wales.
First you tried to re-establish the bogus data and failed. You then tried to "Ya but that's the UK" as though that means something. As though it would be different in the US, and frankly everywhere except perhaps your backwards country, China.
The incentives are obvious, and I have given you ample evidence that they exist and are LARGE (and from a fact-checking org no less - how about that?). You must use this site for practice - only a fool would continue to try and argue if their goal was to fool others as is your job.
(Site Administrator)
you've already shown that data & I've responded to it
are you going to back up or abandon your claim about hospitals being incentivized to report higher COVID death rate?
despite what you may think, this isn't really some kind of gotchya.. you have an opportunity here to prove or get closer to proving a claim you've just made. You can spend some time & try to put together a convincing argument with facts to back it up or not, it's up to you. Just try & stay on the topic - incentivized hospitals.