MAGA grifter pastor Greg Locke organized a book burning of dangerous books like Harry Potter and Twilight.
Global Vision Bible Church pastor Greg Locke and his followers carried out the burning in Mt. Juliet, near Nashville, on Wednesday night, where items they associated with witchcraft were thrown into the fire.
In a ranty sermon, Locke took aim at what he deemed were masonic and occult influences in society.
The Bible, containing violence, rape, murder, incest, and a lot more was not burned.
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(Site Administrator)
Harry Potter & Twilight LMFAO
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Censorship is is the same as book burning. The left has a major censorship problem.
(Site Administrator)
do you identify as being on the Right?
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no
(Site Administrator)
is there any reason you call American liberals "left"?
(sounds retarded)
History. Read all you want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States
More facsist extreme leftists co-opted the label of "liberal" to virtue signal. The liberal left of yesteryear was pushed more towards the center, like Tim Pool. They lost the plot.
(Site Administrator)
"facsist extreme leftists"
bruh
I don't understand what you're getting at by linking that wiki article & since I view Tim Pool as a bit of a bullshit artist I can't use him as a framing for what you mean. I know he says he used to be "on the left" & supported Bernie but fuck all of what Bernie actually does is leftist. He talks a good game but that's about it. He supports the fascist state of Israel & yes, fascism is very much a hard-right position. Arguing otherwise is nuts.
There's nothing particularly left or right about cancel culture. American liberals have lost the plot in their quest to shut down speech they don't like. This is simply authoritarianism - a technique that can be used for left or right political stance.
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Liberal left used to stand up against censorship of the right back in the 90's and 00's, now it seems both extreme sides want censorship. used to be liberal left taking the lead on the fight to end war, now they follow whatever the lamestream media tells them to because Orange Man Bad. Used to be the Liberal Left fighting to keep conservatives out of school and stop them from dictating what can and cannot be taught, now they are the ones trying to push their agendas on kids. Used to be the Liberal left that despised the large corporations and claim they didnt fall for their propaganda, now they embrace and love their corporate overlords willing to defend them with their lives. Liberal left used to be for the working class, but now you see them hating on the working class, Freedom Convoy. Your idea of what Liberal Left is based on yesteryears ideals. It has shifted. I meant the Liberal left has taken Fascism as a play book. Acting not much different than a fascist.
(Site Administrator)
> Your idea of what Liberal Left is based on yesteryears ideals
I don't think this concept of "liberal left" is really a thing.
In US there are left-leaning & right-leaning liberals.
calling all liberals "Liberal Left" doesn't make sense to me. There are different types of liberals in US, practically all of them are capitalist & few understand or go against imperialism. Liberal parties in the west are actually becoming quite imperialist - this is the opposite of leftist - hey just do it with some leftist-sounding rhetoric.
> now they embrace and love their corporate overlords willing to defend them with their lives
yeah, that makes them not leftist. Corporatism is on the other end of the spectrum if you wanna just talk about left-right.
(Long Spike)
dan, you've missed out on alot of conversations, most of them think fascism is a far left thing.
(sounds retarded)
Just take out the nationalism part and the left starts to fit the description.
(Site Administrator)
shitlibs who get into cancel culture sure, they have some common ground authoritarian right so I can see why you might mistake them for fascist. They also have common ground with reactionary (rightist) Islamists, and Soviet communists (leftists). It's just authoritarianism dude. Don't let Tim Pool melt your brain.
It gets more complicated when there's crossover with their SJW or anti-fascist stances but it still is an authoritarian (anti-liberal) take when you advocate for shutting people down over their speech so willy nilly. Just because a political camp in the US has strayed from their fundamental ideals, it doesn't mean the definition of the ideology has changed, surely.
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Look, Im just saying the spectrum has shifted. Liberals getting into cancel culture has shifted what it means to be left now, just as back in the day Conservatives used to be religous nuts, now it has been shifted to the center. Im talking in terms of the group as a whole, not everyone will fit nice and neat into one or the other, everyone is somewhere in between but the left, as a whole, has shifted to the extreme left and the right has calmed down on the religous nutso right side of things. And of course its different else where you go, Im talking about the USA. Dude, Im living it, lived through it, seen it first hand. I was considered liberal left back in my 20's, wanted gay rights, protested the Iraq war, involved with Occupy. Then got my first taste of the radical left at Standing Rock. Watched as the left went crazy extremist and now the right seems more sane.
(Site Administrator)
I don't think we can agree.
What you call "left" just isn't left.
There are some liberals abusing left wing values, a lot of it seems performative or for political gain for their tribe. But then there is some crossover between left & liberal - the equality thing is in both. The social justice thing is more of a left wing thing. In the context of America idfk... you guys are weird & gaslit from all sides.
Outside of America, Liberal takes different forms & is often quite right wing in a lot of ways because it's pro-West/pro-neoliberalism.
I think what may have happened is Liberals hijacked the concept of social justice from leftists & then corrupted it. Early in the Cold War the Soviets were making real gainz from rubbing the lack of social justice in the US in their faces. US still had segregation back then. It was really quite embarrassing for US & the CIA went to work on the western left & amongst other they tried to get out in front of it with covert psyops & such....now here we are.
What a mess.
I think Ameircan Liberals are a nightmare for Leftists tbh. The radical leftists who side with Liberals are nuts. When you only have 2 political camps though it all gets oversimplified.
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I think there is more to agree on then disagree. In a lot of other western countries outside the USA, you are correct. And yes, the two party divide really does lump everyone together that may not be in other countries.
(Old Spike)
"I don't think we can agree.
What you call "left" just isn't left."
It is and it isn't - the horseshoe theory applies here. What people most often mean when they say "fascist" is "totalitarian" in the vein of "do as we say". Whether the ideology is oppressively "inclusive" or oppressively "exclusive" isn't the key issue for most people when it comes to issue of being left alone to live in peace without violence, although that does matter to some extent depending on your personality type, but the degree to which it demands obedience from the populace by force. Inclusive totalitarian regimes (the kind that keep you alive but torture you to the point you wish you were dead, or starve you to death, or just shoot in the head they do that too) are left regimes (you, pol pot, Mao, Stalin, etc.) and exclusive totalitarian regimes (the kind that torture you for a while, or not, and then just kill you but don't abandon capitalism - it fuses with government) are considered right.
What we see right now is an alliance between the descendents of exclusive right-wing totalitarism (neocons and neolibs in gov and bureaucracy - basically the democratic party with some holdouts still lingering in the Republican party) and inclusive left-wing totalitarianism (the wokeist state religious movement that began in universities - Marcuse and what James Lindsey talks about). Both can trace their roots back to the early 19th century and an explicitly anti-Christian lunatic named Hegel, who was German.
You see this in history as well - the more extreme totalitarian regimes will align for mutual benefit against the free. See Germany and Russia in WWII. Yes, eventually the alliance gives way to killing each other, but only AFTER the free have been dealt with (the PRIMARY military criticism against Hitler's military tactics - he went early, way too early, on Russia). Eventually if the alliance of demonic totalitarian orcs and satan spawn succeed in cowing the public at large and killing people like Stok and I (they will have to kill us), you will see a race between the right and left factions to kill each other. It's all a bunch of killing on the horizon for all of us, assuming these nutcases succeed in what they're trying to pull off.
(Old Spike)
bruh, when you write "bruh", in the context of everythning else you write, it's obvious that "bruh" isn't a term you use naturally but one selected in an attempt to relate to your target.