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danman's picture
whm2whm3

won't you feel stupid for calling it "chinavirus" if the origin is traced to another country?

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stokkebye's picture

Depends on if it was legit finding. As of now there is plenty of evidence to suggest it came from China lab. The way China has behaved, they deserve it! 

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

There's zero evidence suppporting the lab leak conspiracy theory.

 

How do you determine what is a "legit finding"?

 


>they deserve it
who's they, what do they deserve & why?

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stokkebye's picture

Ridicule and persecution for not being open and forthcoming with their data and investigations, they acted as someone would when they have something to hide! People DO get convicted for circumstantial evidence! If someone hides all the evidence it doesn't mean they didn't commit the crime! I would base its legitimacy on how well the investigation was performed.

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

guilty until proven guilty ya reckon?

even with zero evidence of lab leak after nearly 2 years & the highly respected head of the lab saying unequivocally that the virus was not there, you're going to go out on a limb & claim there's some big conspiracy?

 

in the early stages, they didn't know what the fuck was going on, whether it was a biological attack or some naturally occuring epidemic & had to study the thing which takes time. They have tight control of shit like this - it's national security shit & they don't fuck around nor are they known for their transparency, you get that right?

 

it's not like they don't reasons to be paranoid about biological attacks

 

your accusation that they hid evidence only works if there's evidence to hide... it's circular logic & there's no supporting evidence that it was a lab leak. Circumstancial evidence that it was detected first in Wuhan and there's a lab in Wuhan. Nothing showing the virus was in the lab, contradictory testimony saying it wasn't, nobody from the lab catching it....just that it's in the same city, a city of about 11 million people. This is enough for you to go out on such a limb & claim they're guilty of a massive cover up?

 

I can grant you that they fucked up by cleaning out the seafood market, it's made it harder to figure out exactly which animal there was infected. Local authorities didn't handle it perfectly & some were punished as a result of their sloppy efforts.... but when it comes to foreigners demanding weapons inspection-style investigation & being told to fuck off, I don't think they were out of line on this. It's their country & they don't wanna be bullied into anything. Again, there's historical reasons for their hardline take on national sovereignty you see today. Don't expect this to change anytime soon.

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skeptoid's picture

There is about as much chance of having lab leak confirmed as getting an answer to the Los Vegas shootings. Your CCP masters will never allow it, obviously. So all there will be is desperate and fraudulent appeals to "alternative explanations" to finding a unicorn in your backyard.

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02596-2

 

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/nov/15/viral-by-alina-chan-and-matt-ridley-review-was-covid-19-really-made-in-china

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skeptoid's picture

There is no direct evidence, only circumstantial. No direct evidence will be provided, even though it did leak from a lab, and you know that.

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

you're sure it leaked from Fort Detrick?

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