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US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD

One month ago a report from RT warns that Syrian rebels are being trained in the use of chemical weapons and have been supplied with chlorine and detonators to create chlorine gas. This HAS to have been an elaborate plot by Russia and Syria to lay down a cover story ahead of their plan to gas dozens of civilians for no reason. 

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I watched the UNSC meeting yesterday & it was interesting to see that an ambassador (Russian or Syrian, I can't recall) say that British intelligence were the primary group coordinating the Western-backed insurgents in Syria. Not surprising, just interesting.

 

FYI the most unprofessional person in the room by miles was the US ambassador. The language she uses in the UN is atrocious. It's fake news from top to bottom. Most of what she says is just emotive garbage with OTT aggressive tones. I don't even think John Bolton was as bad as that bitch.

 

It's a very frank discussion. Russian ambassador starts from 2:12:00

 

 

In the meeting the Russian ambassador accused the US/UK/France of targetting airfields because the airfields have been a key asset in Syria's military struggle with the insurgents...

 

Here's the targets of the airstrikes according to Russia:

 

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eh's picture

Russia says they shot down 71 of 103 missiles with their equipment..........impressive. No way that's fake news.

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I thought the more interesting takeaway was the claim that airbases were targetted. And it's always nice to have a map to look at re: warfare.

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RT is a state owned russian media company. Take anything it reports on conflicts where Russia is heavily involved with a grain of salt.

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LOL yeah this report was completely inaccurate. It was just a coincidence or a smokescreen for gassing people for no reason. I would love to hear your explanation for these two videos. How were they able to so accurately predict the future - is this Putin working with Trump behind the scenes? This is more evidence of collusion isn't it?

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 Russian FOXNEWS  ran it as " a just in case he does decide to use it we have a justification to A. mislead B. Excuse to respond and or avoid responsibility "

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Military or Country    Disinformation is false information spread deliberately to deceive. The English word disinformation is a translation of the Russian dezinformatsiya,derived from the title of a KGB black propaganda department.[Daddy Putin was part of ] The book Disinformation documents that Joseph Stalin coined the term, giving it a French-sounding name to falsely claim it had a Western origin

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Black propaganda was invented by the KGB... while Putin was there... ok

 

That definition btw is ripped from the wikipedia article about disinformation, which in itself is disinformation. It states "The United States Intelligence Community ... in the 1950s ... began to utilize similar strategies"

- This is rubbish & shows how biased wikipedia can be. The US intel community has been using these tactics since its inception. It's a major aspect of politics & warfare.

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Putin was part of KGB. Not only that He was part of KGB hight of US Russia cold war....oh and look where he worked

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1975, Putin joined the KGB, and trained at the 401st KGB school in Okhta, Leningrad.[27][41] After training, he worked in the Second Chief Directorate (counter-intelligence), before he was transferred to the First Chief Directorate, where he monitored foreigners and consular officials in Leningrad

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Every major power has been conducting black propaganda campaigns, especially since WWII. Modern disinformation goes back to the invention of newspapers in the late 17th century. Benjamin Franklin used the tactic in England against the native Americans in 1782

 

Here's an example of the debunking of a modern disinformation campaign used by the US:

According to the coalition’s available data, 89 of its more than 14,000 airstrikes in Iraq have resulted in civilian deaths, or about one of every 157 strikes. The rate we found on the ground — one out of every five — is 31 times as high.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/16/magazine/uncounted-civili...

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