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Tucker Carlson Tells Truth About Syria - Crosses Trump

When the two loudest voices questioning a war in Syria are Jimmy Dore and Tucker Carlson (TYT as well I hear), while almost everyone else is screaming for it, what does that mean? Tucker's anti-war monologue without commentary is below:

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John Bolton as national security advisor. Mike Pompeo preparing to swear in.... this isn't looking good.

The obvious question these geniuses in Washington need to answer is of course - what will replace the Assad regime?

 

Another question they should be answering might be: if this leads to WWIII is there any way we can beat Russia?

(Russia has recently announced it will shoot down any missiles in Syria & attack the source... France is announcing that it is preparing to send in jets on bombing runs.)

 

Props to that snakey bastard in the video. Pity it'll fall on deaf ears with most of the country just because of who he is.

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At least there's an anchor on a major news television network aggressively questioning it - haven't seen that since 2002/2003.

 

Can you rate this vid to balance out eh and co?

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Yeah.... 2003. Damn man. Neocons infiltrating the U.S. regime, vague accusations about WMDs being used by "evil dictators". De ja fucking vu. angry

 

I've just been tuning into the hearings with Mattis etc. He's about to present a range of options to Trump including military strikes. Politicians are telling him it's straight up illegal & unconstitutional and he's saying he's gonna carry out orders from Trump. USA is the evil dictatorship.

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Cenk is surprised Carlson agrees with him? Dude pop that bubble. 

 

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I feel like at some point, the higher ups realized that recquiring evidence to motivate political/government action became uneccessary and they are just running with it. 

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Again, I think it's too early to establish the facts. Speculation is fine, I just can't get behind it as concrete fact if a talking head is screaming it's true whether it's anyone on TV or the guy picking up trash.

 

I don't believe the statements that came out minutes ago from the U.S. and France either until I see it backed up by more sources either. I want proof. What are your thoughts?

 

US officials are saying that blood and urine samples from the victims of Saturday’s attack showed traces chlorine and a nerve agent, and that US intelligence had other evidence pointing to the Syrian regime’s culpability, which would be presented to the president.

The reports echo a statement by the French president, Emmanuel Macron, who said earlier today that his government had “proof” that the government of Bashar al-Assad was responsible for the attack.

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It's absolute fucking garbage. Nobody has even put their name to the evidence. "US officials" means exactly diddly squat.

 

At least with Iraq they had Powell & Tennet sit there & lie their asses off to the UN before going into Iraq with their phoney evidence.

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Absolutely it could be bullshit. To insist "It's absolute garbage" is an opinion backed up by.........nothing. If I were to say "Assad definitely used chemical weapons" I would be expressing my opinion without concrete evidence. I'll wait.

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No. To make a claim based on unnamed sources is absolute garbage. If you think there's credibility in these articles for whatever reason that's on you & your inability to identify misinformation.

 

We've seen this movie before, is your memory that short?

This is France, UK & USA we're talking about here. Have you had your eyes closed for the past 15 years?

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I didn't say there was. I said your claims are just bullshit opinion from a danmanjones character on a website which are no more credible than they are. If you think your claims are somehow more credible, that is definitely on you and your inability to think clearly.

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I'm not the one making any claims. I'm telling you that if you think there's any credibility to anything you've seen so far to make you believe Assad was behind this alleged CW attack then you're a tool.

 

A government, looking to justify military action, is quoting unnamed sources as their evidence of Assad's guilt for something that is not proven to have even happened. You have too have had your eyes closed for the past 15 years to fool for this.

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I'm not "Fooling for this". Your reading comprehension is lacking. I don't think any comments made are credible and won't until I see concrete evidence one way or the other. Take your "If,then...your a tool" shit and shove it.

 

Let me guess, you are positive of all of your opinions because just because.

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nah, you're just being defensive. I think we actually agree that this story that some elements of the French, UK & US governments are trying to sell right now is absolute bullshit.

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btw, I wasn't saying 'you' as-in 'eh' I meant the proverbial 'you' as in 'you people' .... and I think I must have edited that comment ... did I really say "fooling for this"? haha

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Wait? You mean until after the war? Like all the other times? You are such a little bitch. Let's say that 100 people just died from wmd grade nerve gas deployed by Assad. Now you don't have to worry about waiting for anything. What would be your position on war with Syria?

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No fuckboy. Nothing should happen until there is concrete evidence. This isn't a Republican/Democrat thing. It seems like everybody is in favor of attacking. Not me. Let them gas little kids. Fuck it. I just want pussy, food, beer, music, and sports.

 

You're such a little bitch-WAAAAAAA. Shut the fuck up douchenozzle.

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If you look closely, you can actually extract a non-position from what eh wrote above:

 

"Nothing should happen until there is concrete evidence."

 

"It seems like everybody is in favor of attacking. Not me."

 

That seems contradictory. Pretend there is concrete evidence - what should happen?

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Look closely. "Nothing should happen without concrete evidence." Opinion. I think any action at all right now is ridiculous.

 

"It seems like everybody is in favor of attacking. Not me." Fact. I don't think any military attack is the right move. It will effect nothing and solve nothing.

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Mattis says it is clear that Assad’s government has weaponized and used chlorine gas in the Syrian civil war. It is not beneath them, but evidence has to be presented to hinder speculations. France has stated it has some sort of proof the Syrian regime was responsible for the attack. A mission from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) arrived today to conduct their investigation.

 

Carlson should stick with reporting on padas.

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What if Assad did just deploy chlorine gas? So what?

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The US has no clear policy towards Syria. Under Obama there was the "red line" which would be considered crossed, if any chemical weapons were used. Well, that "red line" was crossed in 2013 and nothing happened. Under this administration, which has no clear policy other than the T&C of Twitter, it is that much foggier.

 

I'd say just slap more sanctions on the federation of russian kleptocracy. They play a huge part in the actions of Assad's regime and take the big part of the blame. War would only escalate the tragedy that is Syria. With this Bolton character it is likely to happen..

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"That 'red line' was crossed in 2013." 

 

Crossed by whom?

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Tucker is one of the reasons I'm happy Trump watches Fox News.

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What are the other reasons you are happy Trump gets his news from Fox?

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Sean Hannity is another?

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Alright - I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you may be having a stroke of some kind. First you think Tim Pool is a right-wing activist, and now you think Tucker Carlson is Sean Hannity. Question: What is today's date, and who is currently President of the United States?

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Did you really not understand what Beseeched1 is saying?  Or are you just being intentionally obtuse?

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Love that scene.

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He couldn't have been saying that Carlson and Hannity are equivalents - that would mean he's really dumb, and I have more respect for him than.... Ooooooooooh - shit he was responding to a comment. Thought that was his comment for the video. I didn't understand what he was saying. 

 

Do you think Tim Pool is a right-wing activist?

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