Who needs training?

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phanto's picture

The thing they often get wrong when they mix in a pre-recorded gunshot sound into a video is that they don't sample the sound in an environment that has acoustical characteristics similar to the environment in which the video is filmed.

 

So when you see a video of a gun "shooting" indoors and it makes the sound of a gun that was shot outdoors, you can tell it's fake.

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scott5017's picture

I especially like the way the dog shit himself when it went off, well trained pupper.

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Fullauto223cal's picture

Turns out it's real.  Someone submitted it anonymously to "thetruthaboutguns.com".

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Fullauto223cal's picture

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/06/kat-ainsworth/video-holstered-p...

 

VIDEO: Holstered Pistol Discharges…Negligent or Accident?

 

This video, captured earlier this week, was submitted anonymously by a reader in Nevada. It shows a firearm that had been holstered discharging when the carrier bent over to pick something up.

We’re told that the gun in question was a GLOCK 43. The holster was a GCode INCOG. The bullet penetrated the carrier’s groin in a through-and-through wound and he is reported to be in stable condition.

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Fullauto223cal's picture

OP, what does this have to do with training?

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sal9000's picture

the guy loaded a magazine, racked a round and used his waistband as a holster. gun discharged into himself and he tossed the gun in a room with other people.

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Fullauto223cal's picture

He didn't just use his wasteband, he put one in the chamber and holstered the weapon into an IWB (inside waste band) holster.

 

It's also standard practice to carry a firearm chambered and ready to go.

 

I don't carry appendix like the guy in the video but it's acceptable, assuming you are using a holster designed for appendix carry like he had.

 

All that aside, telling me what it plainly visible in the video doesn't answer the question.  What type of training could he have taken that would have prevented this?

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sal9000's picture

the gun went off. do you want to blame it on the gun, the bullet, the waistband or the user? he didnt secure his weapon properly. the incog holster and the waistband are not designed to pull the trigger. and again. they dont teach you to throw a gun thats firing on its own. you point it at the ground, the air, or whatever you want to kill. you know what cops, opp(state police) and rcmp(fbi) do when they dooffice work? they take it off

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Fullauto223cal's picture

the gun went off. do you want to blame it on the gun, the bullet, the waistband or the user?

 

I don't know what was to blame.  Something obviously depressed the trigger, the question is what.

 

he didnt secure his weapon properly.

 

It sure sounds like he did.  If you watch and listen closely to where he holsters the weapon you can clearly hear it click into the kydex.  That doesn't preclude there being something inside the trigger guard, I just cannot imagine what.

 

the incog holster and the waistband are not designed to pull the trigger.

 

Of course they're not, I cannot see how either of them did.  Again, that's a training issue because???

 

they dont teach you to throw a gun thats firing on its own.

 

Of course they don't, but I can forgive the man for wanting to get rid of it quickly.  As far as throwing it goes, the firearm did not cycle due to his waste blocking the slide, therefore the round that fired was not ejected, therefore there was no danger in tossing it like he did.

 

you point it at the ground, the air, or whatever you want to kill.

 

Again, there firearm did not cycle.  There was literally no danger in tossing it to the floor.  And I don't give a shit how much training you have, when you've been shot like he was the only thing that matters is stopping the bleeding and getting medical attention.

 

you know what cops, opp(state police) and rcmp(fbi) do when they dooffice work? they take it off

 

That is REALLY stupid.  They should not do that.  The safest place for a firearm is on your person.  Taking it off and putting on multiple times a day is unnessecary administrative gun handling.  Unless you're entering a secure area like a jail, there is no reason to fuck with your sidearm just because you're sitting down to write a report.  That sounds like some bullshit policy pulled out the ass of someone with too much authority and no enough fucking brains.

 

There is something wrong here, I just do not think it was lack of training.  He was using a proper holster but perhaps no holster can counter the inherent risk of wearing a concealed weapon that points at your femoral artery and/or ball-sack.

 

Personally, I only carry outside the waste band with a traditional proven holster with belt loops.  I don't personally give a shit about concealment.  If I have a jacket it's concealed.  If I don't, then open carry it is.  When I holster my weapon the muzzle is pointing at the ground and not me, just in case some off the wall fluke like this happens to me.

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The Evil Bat's picture

I don't care what any firearms instructor would tell me. I'm not ever, ever gonna put a loaded gun with one in the chamber, in a position where I can shoot myself in the fucking dick.

Dont care how many instructors would fail me on that! But I'm not ever going to stuff a gun down my pants on the off chance I blast my nuts across the floor (and not in a fun way). Fuck dat!

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RaiThioS's picture
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What's the point of conceal carry if you're not chambered and ready to go. You going to pull it out and rack it in a situation where you need it emmediately?

 

On a side note,  alien (inside waistband) holsters WILL unsafety your 1911. It's happened to me a few times.

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