NATO advisor: US, EU sacrificing Ukraine to 'weaken Russia'

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US, EU sacrificing Ukraine to 'weaken Russia': fmr. NATO adviser

Former NATO advisor admits that Ukraine was attack Donbass since 2014 & was building up for another large attack since 2021

He says that Zelensky isn't in control of Ukraine & that the fascists are calling the shots in particular w/ Minsk Protocols

And that the West are inline with the Ukrainian fascists on this - they've been pushing for war in Ukraine for years

 

According to UN figures, from 2018 to 2021, 81.4% of civilian casualties in the Donbas war came in rebel-held territory. 16.3% were in Ukrainian gov't-controlled territory.

[src]

 

some more takes from the NATO guy (around 22:00): "it's part of a broader war against Russia ... nobody is interested in Ukraine ... the objective is to weaken Russia ... once they're done with Russia they'll do the same with China"

 

 

Original video description:

As the Russia-Ukraine war enters a new phase, former Swiss intelligence officer, senior United Nations official, and NATO advisor Jacques Baud analyzes the conflict and argues that the US and its allies are exploiting Ukraine in a longstanding campaign to bleed its Russian neighbor.

 

Guest: Jacques Baud. Former intelligence officer with the Swiss Strategic Intelligence Service who has served in a number of senior security and advisory positions at NATO, the United Nations, and with the Swiss military.

 

Jacques Baud's article on the Ukraine war: thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine

 

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stokkebye's picture

Wow! This whole time I thought Russia invaded Ukraine, I had no idea Ukraine was the aggressor becuase they wanted to retake their land Russia stole.

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

dude you've already admitted you have no knowledge on the history of the conflict.

why not just listen to the interview, you might learn something.

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stokkebye's picture

I didnt say I had no knowledge, I am very aware of what is going on and the history. Yeah, Im not a scholar in it, dont know every little detail, dont care to know. A person doesnt need to every detail of history to know what Russia did was fucked up and their actions should be condemned not condoned by people like you. If Mexico wanted to be a puppet state of China or Russia and the USA invaded Mexico and took parts of it, killing innocent civilians in the process, I would be against it just as much as I am now and calling out shills like you. I was and still am against the Iraq and afgan invasion. I still call Bush and Cheney war criminals, just like I now say Putin is. You really think I should give them a pass because they got butt hurt about the west fucking around in Ukraine and Ukraine pushing back for 8 years? Fuck outta here with your BS! 

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

you've oversimplified the conflict

the NATO guy says it didn't start in 2022, it started in 2014

and he says that Russia had no choice, given the situation

 

it would be more like if US lost California & the new govt there was discriminating against & killing ethnic Americans for years at the behest of a hostile foreign state/alliance who had just orchestrated a coup there & was providing all the arms & training for them to carry out the attacks while talking about bringing California into their alliance. Then US spent years trying to negotiate a political settlement only to have their efforts disregarded & undermined by the hostile foreign entity before finally using military force to resolve the problem. That's still an oversimplification but closer than what you wrote.

 

I'm not stopping you from condemning anything but if all you're interested in is condemnation why do you even bother clicking on posts like this?

 

you make demands that I see things the as you do - from where do you get the authority to try & close down a convo about a serious topic, putting your ignorant & emotional takes above any facts or reason. It's just childish behaviour & does you no favours.

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sato's picture

lol sure it was the US and europe that moved russia's army into ukraine.

 

donbass is ukraine.

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Nakey's picture
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i ain't watching that because it's gay if you push back.

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lol, what headlines does that remind me of? Oh, here it is:

"Ex NASA employee says climate change is a hoax."

"The truth about the vaccines told by ex #insert most hated pharma here# emplyee."

 

etc, etc, etc........

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danman's picture
whm2whm3

sounds like you spend too much time on facebook

if you'd like to counter any points made in the video, title or description you're free to do so. I'll wait.

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