HK pro-democracy candidates win big

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Celebrations in Hong Kong amid landslide victory for pro-democracy candidates

With a record 71% voter turnout, pro-democracy candidates have taken 90% of the available councillors seats, more than double the number won in the previous election. A large majority of HK clearly want democracy, rather than be governed by the Chinese Communist Party.

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danmanjones's picture

The vote was 41% to 57%, showing HK is quite divided but the swing in the seats was pretty drastic. Next year's Legco election is more important & will likely go the same way. Carrie Lam really messed up.

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stokkebye's picture

So whats your take, were there politicains that were FOR being under China? Was that the governments stance before the election? Or is this just backlash for the handling of the protests? 

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danmanjones's picture

were there politicains that were FOR being under China? 

Pro-Beijing candidates started kicking ass in HK about a decade ago thanks to support from the HK business community which is now majority pro-Beijing. The HK elections in recent times were won by these candidates.

 

On the other side you have oligarchs who back pan-democrat candidates. They also run most of the HK media & they've capitalised on the unrest.

 

I'd say the political backlash is likely more against Carrie Lam's govt than it is FOR the pan-democrats since they don't offer much of substance.

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stokkebye's picture

Oh NO, Subroutine will be banned in China!!!

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monkeymania's picture

That's how it starts and the next thing you know you are shaking hands with someone with nerve agent on their hand...

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sato's picture

considering the dirty tricks the pro-beijing camp uses to boost their numbers, like the goodie bags for people voting for them, and the buses to bring nursing home people to vote for them, it's staggering.

 

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danmanjones's picture

Sauce?

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monkeymania's picture

Stop it wu mao youngling. Pro-Beijing operatives have done this in other elections in Hong Kong and have continued to do so. It's standard.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/25/hong-kong-district-council-election-voter-cheat-sheets-reward-allegations-prompt-suspicions-foul-play/

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danmanjones's picture

That article debunks the "goodie bags" allegation.

The "buses to bring nursing home people" claim is sourced from AppleDaily - a hardcore pro-pan-dem tabloid owned by Jimmy Lai - and is just an accusation based on not much at all.

Solid stuff. Kappa.

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monkeymania's picture

DRRRRRRRRRR no shit. Solid as your wu mao PRC dogma.

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danmanjones's picture

don't you get tired of losing an argument & resorting to personal attacks?

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monkeymania's picture

Don't you get tired of defending China over and over and over and over again to the point where it's obvious to everyone you are just a PRC shill? Work your idiotic wu mau skills on a wider audience. Your posts and comments are all the same and complete bullshit. Pro-China and negative on anything that criticizes the truth about China. You are a joke.

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danmanjones's picture

It's amusing to see you all squirm when you can't defend the silly shit you believe, no different to debunking the "Assad gassed his own people in Douma", "Trump is a Russian puppet", "Iran bombed cargo ships in the Gulf" etc. How many fucks do you think I give about being called an Assad apologist, Trumptard, Putin boot licker or anti-Semite? You think callin me a PRC shill is going to change anything?

 

Resorting to personal attacks just makes it obvious you can't argue the facts & only works on people who give a fuck about your opinion. If you can't argue the facts then it's an instant L for you.

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monkeymania's picture

Dinmin, just relax. Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion either. It would just be nice if you didn't champion the Chinese government constantly. Your wu mao technique seemed to be getting skilled, then your constant "PRC is great" routine made you a fool again. Sorry if factual personal "attacks" which are actually just true observations bother you but you aren't thin-skinned at all so you can handle it, right?

 

Go back for more wu mao training though. Your game is weak.

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danmanjones's picture

factual personal "attacks""

Cool story bro. Try defending your views with rational arguments some time. Honestly, my assumption is that you (& others) are afraid to even try because it could expose holes in your own knowledge &/or thinking. It seems pretty obvious with you because you fly off the handle & try to take over the discussion with anything but logic or reason.

 

It would just be nice if you didn't champion the Chinese government

When have I ever championed the Chinese government?

Rebuking dumb propaganda is not an endorsement of the target.

 

Ask yourself this: why does (your perception of) my attitude towards the Chinese government (or Trump, Putin etc) bother you so much?

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monkeymania's picture

LOLOL Put in more wu mao technique training. Enough said.

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danmanjones's picture

What makes you try to discredit people who don't see things the same as you do?

Wouldn't you rather prove your own reasoning with an open discussion, test it out & see how strong it is?

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