Ak-47 breaks and sticks full auto !

Nakey's picture

Ak-47 breaks and sticks full auto !

props for keeping that muzzle climb down.

first time i fired something on full auto i ended up spraying the ceiling.

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Seamonkey89's picture

It didn't break. This kid's supervisor gave a fully automatic weapon to a newbie shooter with his finger next to the selector switch and was *surprized when this happened. lt looks like it didn't break at all, it was flipped to auto from semi and the kid panicked. Probably a just Private. Come on National Guard, get it together will you?

 

 

 

 

AKs on the market that aren't fully automatic from the factory aren't capible of breaking and accidentally going full auto. The Seer in them won't let that happen. Source, I'm a Vet and I own a civilian AK and no, it doesn't have the components in it to support the truneon to go fully auto. Which is good. This video shows how dumb AKs are on full auto. Most guns suck to shoot full auto. Fully automatic small arms were a marketing tool used in the 40s-50s to sell the Armies of many nations one specific gun over another by preceving them as vastly capible, rather than vastily dangerous and wastefull. Full automatic small arms like an AK  are very VERY rarely shot on full auto at war (assuming waring nation is 1st world) and often have that capibity disabled before they reach the first Private. Imagine carrying 210 rounds to the front line, keeping them cleaned and ready for weeks or months, entering into a battle with them, only to loose about 1/2 of your rounds to a grip seizing burst into a random tree, the sky, or your buddy because you accidentally flipped a switch when panicked or nervous. This is why full auto is only for crew served weapons or big bulky fucking things with a low and slow rate of fire that weigh 17lbs unloaded and cant be easily over powered by accidental full auto.

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phanto's picture

The selector remained in semi-auto position. We can get a very good view of it in the video when it fires seemingly on "full auto". But it doesn't look like this was caused by a mechanical failure of the weapon either. (although I wouldn't say it is an impossible thing to happen. I've seen AKs break. They're not magical or anything)

 

I have a better explanation for why this happened. The shooter was obviously inexperienced and nervous. If you play the video in 0.5x speed you can see his trigger finger move rhythmically with the firing of the weapon. What likely happened is that because of this and undevelopped muscle memory and poor grip on the gun, every recoil impulse caused an involuntary squeeze reflex of the firing grip and a sympathetic movemement of the trigger finger, involuntarily pulling the trigger to fire another round and therefore repeating the cycle. It was like a biomechanical bump-fire. I've seen this happen a few times with new shooters, especially with snappy-recoiling handguns.

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Seamonkey89's picture

I'd like to disagree in an area but see that I am wrong in my previous post. While the saftey selector switch on an AK was designed to discourage impulse use of the Full Auto feature and is fashioned like a lever which, when at the top is on safe, when on bottom is on semi, and when on a lower middle setting to be in Full Auto, we can see his grip and trigger finger squeezing very tightly and not reciprocating *some of the times the gun is going off on full auto. 53 seconds is a decent example. He seems to be panic squeezing everything, which should render the gun stopped if it was on Semi (tho the pic I'm posting shows it is clearly set to Semi and it continues to fire.)

 

It looks like it was a failure of some sort, potentially a breakage. The only other possiblity I know of would be if it was a 'Runaway' due to heat but, the barrel still being black suggests thats not the case. OP must have been right,  it must have been just a Full Auto AK that broke for some reason. But, I still think Full Auto is dumb. 

 

 

Image and examination

https://imgur.com/gallery/6c1USRk

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phanto's picture

I've watched it over and over again at 0.25x speed. What I see is what looks like his middle phalange briefly coming into view a few times as it is bouncing and flopping around on the trigger as the gun fires. But it's not clear enough to tell for sure. It could just be an illusion with the camera shutter. As far as I can tell we won't know for sure whether it was a mechanical failure or operator error just from what we can see on the video.

 

And yeah, full auto in a battle rifle is almost always a waste of ammunition. It makes more sense in machine guns and submachine guns though.

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ubershin's picture

ooooof

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