Danman has deleted sal9000

skeptoid's picture

2001: A Space Odyssey - HAL 9000 Death Scene, Deactivation (Movie Clip)

Danman has deleted sal9000's account. He's using the same BS excuse he used for mucking around with the China debate posts in general. He's inviting people to come and talk with him on discord about it. 

 

There's definitely a fascinating study here in lack of awareness on multiple levels of this site's administration, but for my part I would just ask that Danman resign immediately after restoring Sal's account. 

 

Sal if you can read this - thanks for the hard work you put into your deep debunking of Dan's damaging CCP horsecrap. You actually take the time to review the crap he puts up so you can map out his BS in fine detail. I appreciate that, and hope to see you back here soon.

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Raining Blood's picture

don't do anything to crazy now

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danmanjones's picture

nobody has been deleted skeptoid

again, sal has tried to doxx me on here, funny you ignore that part.

 

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skeptoid's picture

Raining blood: "hey, sal sent me a text. his account got nerfed. no comments no posts.'

 

Danman: "yep. this content meta war bullshit needs to cool off.

i've invited him to discus on discord, anyone can join https://discord.gg/vx7Th

edit: before anyone flies off the handle, this has been ongoing for months, he refers to me as his "prey" and has tried to doxx me."

 

Perhaps this is just your usual difficulty with expressing yourself clearly. So, go ahead and clarify. Not on discord - here. If you're going to try and say that limiting his account to no posting and no comments is not the same as deleting you can just fuck right ahead off. If you want people to talk with you on discord, step one would be to unnerf sal's account.

 

You have fomented and driven an East vs. West animosity on this site since day one. You react to people winning arguments with you by doubling down and throwing insults. When people react with the typical teasing humor this site has always been known for, with sal one of the best at it, you think you can censor him and then invite us to all learn a lesson with you on discord? Dude, GTFO.

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danmanjones's picture

If you want people to talk with you on discord, step one would be to unnerf sal's account.

I've been inviting sal to discord to chat for months but he's so far refused. Discord is a much better medium than this for communication. It's obvious sal9000 has a personal vendetta against me, it has nothing to do with his political views as far as I can tell. Arguing about political topics is fine. It's annoying to some people & sometimes gets out of hand, hence the No Trump November & No China March. Using this site to target a particular user over a period of months, to the point of doxxing them, goes beyond what this site should be about IMO.

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Dude, do you have like no memory? It's not at all obvious to me that sal has a personal vendetta against you just as it was not at all obvious to anyone that sal had a personal vendetta against me when he would dog me incessantly about my preferred approach to dog training or my interest in UFOs or my aggressively communicated take on science vs. religion and so on. Sal was very aggressive with me and he fucking lived in my town. How thin is your skin? And if you are so hurt by it then why do you engage in the meta war as you call it? 

 

As much as sal has frustrated me in the past I was alwasy eager to engage with him and debate it out, and those debates often became heated and sometimes personal. I never once asked for his account to be nerfed - that would be retarded because then how would I be able to have conversations with him? I WANT someone like sal here who actually bothers to take the time to research claims and sources to challenge people like you, like me, like anyone who posts here.

 

He gets on your nerves and all of sudden you get confused about which hat you're wearing. And this is why it was never a good idea to let you wear both of them at once. Traditionally, Spiked moderators have kept a minimalist profile as compared to the site's users. Hell, Violet Ninja hated me and my politics most intensely and he barely made a noise in my direction despite very palpable animosity. He would never have nerfed my account. You've gone off the rails. I can speculate all day on how you got here, and I have really just two basic theories, but it's irrelevant. It's time for you to pick a hat and stick with it, Dan.

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I've tried engaging with sal9000 & was cordial from the start but have never got anywhere on here & has been nothing but disrespectful, hence the discord invite. I'd like to know what the personal vendetta is about. What makes someone try to "stalk" another user here as if they're his "prey" over a course of months.

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skeptoid's picture

From my perspective you have enthusastically and deliberately made yourself his prey repeatedly, and so he's just acknowledging that fact. You also don't concede when there's no possible way for you to maintain a position. I've seen the threads, and watched as he methodically debunks a claim you've made (I'm being polite here) and then you rudely gaslight and dance sideways out of frame. How long have you been here? You might as well paint a target on your back and label it "Meat for sal9000". You post one for one with him, driving the war and the dispute forward, and you're not retarded.

 

So, I don't believe that you "don't understand why he's doing it" and your just ascared and looking to be reassured. I don't buy that at all. I think he makes you look like a fool, you can't pull out of it for [some reason lolol] and this is the only way you can think of to stop the carnage and embarrassment. If you just wanted the meta posts to stop, you would just let sal post a few more, focus on the moderating and put the CCP-advocate stuff aside for a few weeks, and he'll stop too. See it's when you post BS that he can't help but respond - he's REALLY meticulous when he decides to check something out. Whenever I would engage with sal I was always eager to see what he might dig up to challenge anything I was saying. Often he would lead me to new sources, and although in most cases I wouldn't end up agreeing with him I never had a sense that he was trying to gaslight or be dishonest in the way I would accuse you and MonkeyMania of being when it comes to arguments in the comment section. You're not confused. You're not ascared. You've just lost a month's long argument repeatedly and it hurts - let it go. 

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danmanjones's picture

meticulous lol

 

do you have any thoughts on the stalking & attempted doxxing? 

 

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skeptoid's picture

See you just did there - "meticulous lol". Yes as compared to you, who uses a single often shallow source and when you go there the source often isn't even claiming what you say it's claiming. That's why I stopped. He keeps going because he enjoys exposing you. I know you understand that.

 

Now, as for doxxing - when and how did sal try to doxx you? This better be good. Did sal try to doxx you, or did you bring up doxxing and then sal had some fun with your psychology? Again, I have no idea on details but I can imagine there's more to it than "Sal tried to doxx me".

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danmanjones's picture

I'll show you in private - you can use the discord link to reach me.

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You can show us all here and blurr anything you think might compromise your identity or location. I'm not going on discord to talk with you and would encourage others not to either until you unnerf sal's account. And then I might consider it. 

 

And, just to be super duper clear, this isn't some thing where Sal was able to prove in a general sense that you are pretending to be a nationality that are not or something like that right? By doxxing you don't mean something like he exposed that you have explicitly misrepresented your nationality or race here, do you? By doxxing you mean he threatened to post your home address, or phone number, or personal email address, or work location, here or somewhere else to cause you trouble. Right? OMG please tell me I'm right.

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danmanjones's picture

no it was not some misrepresentation, that's a fantasy.

 

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Are you kidding me? Are you going to try and argue here that he suggested or perhaps even proved that you have presented yourself here as something you are not, and that's what you think is "doxxing"?

 

How precisely did he threaten to doxx you - you can be precise in general terms. I can't be right but it feels like...he found a way to expose you as a grand lie and rather than debunk him here you thought you best silence him and hold his account ransom until you can get assurance from him in private that he won't expose you any further - not in terms of doxxing, but in terms of how incredibly dishonestly you have conducted yourself here. Now, if you want to say his accusation, whatever it was, was not correct, not fair, not true, then why not just do that? You're not in any danger - the fact that we use handles here doesn't mean I don't get to intuit your race or nationality based on your behavior or some publicly available meta information. 

 

You know what you shouldn't have done? You shouldn't have taken a CCP approach to sal9000 and expected not to end up exactly here. Most of the viewers here care two shits about the politics, and those who do really aren't that into debating you on this matter because it's so often such a ridiculous discussion. MOST people come here to see interesting videos posted along the lines of what sal usually posts here. I think sal really smacked you hard with the Chad Thai meme - I think that really got to you. There's a big hole here that only you can fill - an empty space that the Chad Thai meme fills nicely in the midst of your refusal to clarify or justify your increasingly unhinged actions here on the site. He nailed you. Get over it.

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monkeymania's picture

dinmin, just do yourself, everyone else, and Spiked Nation a favor.

 

 

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Dude's picture

Doxx you? Even so what? you are ashamed? scared?

Yes he is quite the wistle blower that sal....,Maybe the police needs to tell him to shut up,... Ow O NO, YOU ALREADY DID THAT.. by just banning him no video no real explaination, you can all know my details, where i live my full name, and i have more to hide then you.

My name is

Kjell Wuyts

I live in

Kerselaarlaan 23

Heist op den berg - Belgium

my email is WUYTS_5@MSN.COM

 

see nothing to hide here, we are all just ppl with oppinions wich may differ

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Dude's picture

Just talked to Dan on Discord and yeah he is tired of the personal vendetta and trying to reveal his personal info was just the drop, i see where he comes from, Sal's account was not deleted just put on hold for a while, i believe Sal went a little to far

Dan's Discord link https://discord.gg/vx7Th6

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Raining Blood's picture

i spoke to sal ealier and i thought it would be better to wait than to say anything. but heres some of it

 

https://www.spikednation.com/videos/foreign-born-population-us-1850-2019

"where were you born, Jay?"  -Danmanjones to sal.

why would he call him Jay? its cause the email account thats assigned to sals account starts with jay. i know this for fact cause its one of 4 communal email accounts that he, 2 other people and i used to use. now, this is where its going to get fucked up. sal got the boot at the end of the march. he had to reset his account password. that was on the 31st and gosh darnit, a request was made to reset a facebook account on the 1st of april, another one followed the 4th april. now shit happens sometimes. but to have request for a fake facebook account that was made to join a group of fake facebook accounts for facebook games.

 

and what sal did to doxx dan, is reverse image search a graph dan used to see where it came from, it turned out dan posted it on his twitter page to then post it here, sal, told dan something and ended it with something along the lines of "i'm in the loop" which is a play on his twitter handle.

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danmanjones's picture

I have no idea what you're talking about rwt facebook. I doubted its his real name considering what the rest of that email address is but it wasn't cool regardless. None of this trolling shit is cool when it becomes a case of obsessively stalking someone inside & outside the site. There was more than a Twitter account involved in what he posted & he's not the only one here who's been stalking me online & posting what they find. If sal or whatever his name is wants to bury the hatchet the discord link is there.

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lawngnome's picture

If you google "Danmanjones", it's quite easy to see that you used to frequent Liveleak and Funnyjunk.  

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skeptoid's picture

He doesn't get it, does he? You are still posting and making comments here. Sal is not. Fuck off please.

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vinzent's picture

I don't know the details of the drama but sal9000 uploads the best content.

I still get the spiked humor vibe from a lot of his posts.

Don't want him to stop.

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skeptoid's picture

I can't think of a person who better represents the spirit of SpikeNation than sal. There are others yes, but I don't know if I would want to come here if he were not posting and commenting. Who would? This is ridiculous and the action remains unexplained and unjustified.

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n0val33t's picture

Everything you just said ..... my toughts!

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Dude's picture

Its put on hold for a cooldown period (not deleted) he'l be back

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skeptoid's picture

You're assuming he would want to come back.

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Dude's picture

He'l be back he is a spiked national

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n0val33t's picture

Tomato tomato ... 

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SpikedLegend's picture
Beta Tester

Wtf has this site turned into??

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jdt73's picture

Its a shit fight as it has been for a long time.

Only thing now is that danman has overreached.

Let the corruptiom trial ensue......

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n0val33t's picture

This is beyind insane, Sal9000 been shut out, and chairman wrong who's been harrassing the site with CCP BS for over a year now is a mod?

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lawngnome's picture

Then he goes all passive aggressive and changes the title of posts, instead of answering the people.

 

https://www.spikednation.com/videos/reality-sucks

 

The tags that some people have gotten, monkeymania's "sounds retarded"...  It's such bullshit.

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danmanjones's picture

that's not true.

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lawngnome's picture

What isn't true about that? 

 

You are too easily offended, you are mad OCD, a passive aggressive pussy, a grumpy control freak, and sensor happy.

 

Your tactics suck ass and have backfired on you, enjoy your ridicule.

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danmanjones's picture

all of it

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lawngnome's picture

Too funny.  

 

https://media.giphy.com/media/4Xbr39OD96ZmU/giphy.gif

 

 

Your discord link is invalid btw.

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lawngnome's picture

Oh, I'm not going to talk to you.  Nobody wants to.

 

I was trying to see if there was any discussion on there, to get some clarity of what happened with your latest sensoring.

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jdt73's picture

Looks like SAL9000 wins even when he has been hit with a deathblow by danmanbuthurt.

Thats what I call poetry.

danmans go no where to go....

Hoist with his own petard.

 

What now dannyboy?

delete the thread ? Close the site?

Bet you wish you could.

 

BTW - delete me too. You have been what makes this site a big fukn YAWN.

 

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Beta Tester

Is Sal9000 really gone? 

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lawngnome's picture

For 2 weeks, for asserting his dominance and saying Danman was his prey.

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SpikedLegend's picture
Beta Tester

Not cool if it's true. Is there any proof?

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theblackswordsman's picture

He loves to criticize the value systems of others, but can't stand having his views criticized.

 

The fundamental difference between most of us and him is that we don't shut others up.  We make fun of them instead.

 

If it gets too much for Dan he brings in the silence stick.

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