Orange asshole was dumping illegally on their property.
He was also a crazy fuck on meds that had the cops raid his house less than a month ago for threatening to kill the mailman.
Europoors of spiked nation are going to have an aneurysm.
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Dude (Old Spike)
Heyheyhey im European and i love the coloseum they call America and the internet, though i do feel bad for the woman.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
Also, According to the facebook post and the news report, Orange man was raided for threatening to kill the mailman 3 days before this event.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
post the news report
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
look at the first comment dummy.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
"Also, According to the facebook post and the news report, Orange man was raided for threatening to kill the mailman 3 days before this event."
you say the facebook post and the news report, when only a facebook post says he threatened the mailman and neither mention a raid.
mailman is a federal employee. if you threaten to kill one and get raided for it, you're going to get arrested. if you get arrested, they make a police report. then it shows up in a police blotter, a news report or Taylor County Court Records. to sum it up. he didnt threaten to kill the mailman, he didnt get raided. if he had, records of it would exist.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
Did you actually try to find the record though? I'm pretty sure he was arrested.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
Trying to link a pic, Not sure how to embed on here.
Here's orange guys rap sheet, and this doesn't cover everything.
I guess he probably wasn't arrested for that occasion, but he's clearly a piece of shit.
There you go.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
Well I tried, Here's a link.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
https://imgur.com/a/Iuis0OK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Here's the actual link.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
"Did you actually try to find the record though?" are you a retard? did you actually read my post? do you see where i typed "Taylor Country Court Records"? you know, the same very site you got the pic from. you think thats a coincidence? do you think that someone with his record can threaten to kill a federal employee, get raided and not get arrested?
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
Who is this hippie guy anyway? He's not new to the site. I wonder if it's Andy or something.
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RaiThioS (Short Spike)
fuckin Andy
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
Orange Shirt, stairing down two shirtless men with weapons, says "SHOOT ME!!! YOU'RE DEAD!! POINT IT!!"
Promptly gets what he asked for.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Do you think they'll be done for murder?
And do you know whether you're allowed to stand on public holding a gun & tell someone you're gonna shoot them in Texas?
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
They might get a murder charge but I doubt it will stick with a jury.
You don't know if that was public property. The dumpster was owned by the fattys, The back alley could be owned by them also. Standing at your property and having a man come up with a bat saying I'll kill you over and over, and then you telling them you will shoot them, is perfectly acceptable. So your question isn't really the right one to be asking in this situation and to answer your question, no. That isn't allowed unless you're a police officer, or you're warning someone threatening to kill you.
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
Do you think they'll be done for murder?
If I had to bet money, yes. This was not self-defense. This was a meeting of dumbasses where two had guns and the one who didn't was to stupid to back down.
And do you know whether you're allowed to stand on public holding a gun & tell someone you're gonna shoot them in Texas?
I don't think that's lawful in any State.
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ninjzz3.0 (Short Spike)
The two were released after posting $25,000 bail. I want to know how AUTO had $25,000 . You had it under the mattress didn't you?
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
Do you know how bail works?
http://publicaccess.taylorcountytexas.org/PublicAccess/JailingSearch.aspx?ID=500
Here's orange assholes bail record btw.
$24,500.00 paid in bail since 1997.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
first. you can't link his record from there because its the results of a search not a link to his record
second, do you know how bail works? $24,500.00 paid by the bondsman to the court. he paid somewhere between 10-15% to the bondsman. so the real number is $3,570. since he never went on the lam. the bondsman got the $24,500.00 back
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
I was quoting some other dumbass that didn't consider how bail worked. Same thing for the arrest rumor. He still fled from a "swarm" of police at his house 3 days before this.
Also that bail they posted is incredibly low for a murder charge, because the judge knows they won't be convicted of it. Most I expect would be less than a year in jail for each of them and several years of probation.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
"He still fled from a "swarm" of police at his house 3 days before this" where's the record? where are you getting this from cause its not in any police report, news report, or facebook comment.
your mom should get a year in jail for not opting to swallow the load
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
It's from Aaron Howards own facebook post you whiney faggot.
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
That doesn't mean they have been let off dipshit.
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ninjzz3.0 (Short Spike)
stairing down two shirtless men with weapons is justification shoot to kill? You dd't take any classes or your just like these dudes small dick want to get gun off make up for it...
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Texas law
(a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section 46.02; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in violation of Section 46.05.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
(d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.
(e) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force is used is not required to retreat before using force as described by this section.
(f) For purposes of Subsection (a), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (e) reasonably believed that the use of force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
https://imgur.com/a/bjGbRtA
https://imgur.com/a/Yh1CgoR
Look at all of these other "white" criminals on their most wanted list.
This happens way too often.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
The wife screaming at the end was hardcore. 5/5 for drama.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
let's profile. which house does the father and son live in?
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
that is interesting, I think the shooters actually live in westridge drive and somehow have a sense of ownership of the dumpster. I don't know whether or not these are public.
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stokkebye (sounds retarded)
Seemed like a fair killing to me. Orange shirt guy should have backed the fuck off.
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Lambus (Short Spike)
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napalm4sd (Long Spike)
If orange shirt was on their property, antagonizing them and threatening death its probably going to be a case of stand your ground or some shit.
Both sides were retarded though, for sure.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
They should be in US law enforcement and not in prison, the two of them clearly have both the perfect physique and brainpower for it
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
Yea, but they're not friends with the Sheriff or donated a couple grand to his campaign so it was a no-go.
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Beldazz (Short Spike)
Why do so many Americans think that every fucking confrontation has to involve bringing a gun? Have you not heard of sorting things out with your fists? What should have just been a punch up resulted in someone needlessly being shot dead. Not every verbal or physical assault is a threat to your life which needs to be neutralised with bullets.
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Dude (Old Spike)
I agree if they both brought a stick it would be more enjoyable to watch
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
Who has been lying to you and telling you that this stupid shit is common in America?
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subroutine (Old Spike)
what a trashy tragicomedy
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
They've been re-arrested with a $250,000 bail because of "public outrage"
They're basically politicial prisoners at this point.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Good for them
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
Why does every one of your comments have up votes and why are Sal's comments being downvoted? No one here should care enough to vote on your conversation.
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ageing hippy li... (Spiker)
You're asking me?
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
Because no one here would upvote you for calling sal a dummy for pointing out you referred to a news report that didn't exist. And no one here other than you would be downvoting sal for arguing with you. It looks weird, which is why I asked.
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(Short Spike)
Because of a fucking mattress...?
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article218728710.html
(Old Spike)
What Orange Shirt thought he was doing.
(Spiker)
Orange asshole was dumping illegally on their property.
He was also a crazy fuck on meds that had the cops raid his house less than a month ago for threatening to kill the mailman.
Europoors of spiked nation are going to have an aneurysm.
(Old Spike)
Heyheyhey im European and i love the coloseum they call America and the internet, though i do feel bad for the woman.
(Spiker)
Also, According to the facebook post and the news report, Orange man was raided for threatening to kill the mailman 3 days before this event.
(Long Spike)
post the news report
(Spiker)
look at the first comment dummy.
(Long Spike)
"Also, According to the facebook post and the news report, Orange man was raided for threatening to kill the mailman 3 days before this event."
you say the facebook post and the news report, when only a facebook post says he threatened the mailman and neither mention a raid.
mailman is a federal employee. if you threaten to kill one and get raided for it, you're going to get arrested. if you get arrested, they make a police report. then it shows up in a police blotter, a news report or Taylor County Court Records. to sum it up. he didnt threaten to kill the mailman, he didnt get raided. if he had, records of it would exist.
(Spiker)
Did you actually try to find the record though? I'm pretty sure he was arrested.
(Spiker)
Here's orange guys rap sheet, and this doesn't cover everything.
I guess he probably wasn't arrested for that occasion, but he's clearly a piece of shit.
There you go.
(Spiker)
Well I tried, Here's a link.
(Spiker)
https://imgur.com/a/Iuis0OK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Here's the actual link.
(Long Spike)
"Did you actually try to find the record though?" are you a retard? did you actually read my post? do you see where i typed "Taylor Country Court Records"? you know, the same very site you got the pic from. you think thats a coincidence? do you think that someone with his record can threaten to kill a federal employee, get raided and not get arrested?
(Old Spike)
Who is this hippie guy anyway? He's not new to the site. I wonder if it's Andy or something.
(Short Spike)
fuckin Andy
(Old Spike)
Orange Shirt, stairing down two shirtless men with weapons, says "SHOOT ME!!! YOU'RE DEAD!! POINT IT!!"
Promptly gets what he asked for.
(Old Spike)
Do you think they'll be done for murder?
And do you know whether you're allowed to stand on public holding a gun & tell someone you're gonna shoot them in Texas?
(Spiker)
They might get a murder charge but I doubt it will stick with a jury.
You don't know if that was public property. The dumpster was owned by the fattys, The back alley could be owned by them also. Standing at your property and having a man come up with a bat saying I'll kill you over and over, and then you telling them you will shoot them, is perfectly acceptable. So your question isn't really the right one to be asking in this situation and to answer your question, no. That isn't allowed unless you're a police officer, or you're warning someone threatening to kill you.
(Old Spike)
Do you think they'll be done for murder?
If I had to bet money, yes. This was not self-defense. This was a meeting of dumbasses where two had guns and the one who didn't was to stupid to back down.
And do you know whether you're allowed to stand on public holding a gun & tell someone you're gonna shoot them in Texas?
I don't think that's lawful in any State.
(Short Spike)
(Spiker)
Do you know how bail works?
http://publicaccess.taylorcountytexas.org/PublicAccess/JailingSearch.aspx?ID=500
Here's orange assholes bail record btw.
$24,500.00 paid in bail since 1997.
(Long Spike)
first. you can't link his record from there because its the results of a search not a link to his record
second, do you know how bail works? $24,500.00 paid by the bondsman to the court. he paid somewhere between 10-15% to the bondsman. so the real number is $3,570. since he never went on the lam. the bondsman got the $24,500.00 back
(Spiker)
I was quoting some other dumbass that didn't consider how bail worked. Same thing for the arrest rumor. He still fled from a "swarm" of police at his house 3 days before this.
Also that bail they posted is incredibly low for a murder charge, because the judge knows they won't be convicted of it. Most I expect would be less than a year in jail for each of them and several years of probation.
(Long Spike)
"He still fled from a "swarm" of police at his house 3 days before this" where's the record? where are you getting this from cause its not in any police report, news report, or facebook comment.
your mom should get a year in jail for not opting to swallow the load
(Spiker)
It's from Aaron Howards own facebook post you whiney faggot.
(Old Spike)
That doesn't mean they have been let off dipshit.
(Short Spike)
stairing down two shirtless men with weapons is justification shoot to kill? You dd't take any classes or your just like these dudes small dick want to get gun off make up for it...
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Texas law
(a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section 46.02 ; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in violation of Section 46.05 .
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
(d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32 , 9.33 , and 9.34 .
(e) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force is used is not required to retreat before using force as described by this section.
(f) For purposes of Subsection (a), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (e) reasonably believed that the use of force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.
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(Old Spike)
The wife screaming at the end was hardcore. 5/5 for drama.
(Long Spike)
let's profile. which house does the father and son live in?
(Old Spike)
that is interesting, I think the shooters actually live in westridge drive and somehow have a sense of ownership of the dumpster. I don't know whether or not these are public.
(sounds retarded)
Seemed like a fair killing to me. Orange shirt guy should have backed the fuck off.
(Short Spike)
(Long Spike)
If orange shirt was on their property, antagonizing them and threatening death its probably going to be a case of stand your ground or some shit.
Both sides were retarded though, for sure.
(Old Spike)
They should be in US law enforcement and not in prison, the two of them clearly have both the perfect physique and brainpower for it
(Old Spike)
Yea, but they're not friends with the Sheriff or donated a couple grand to his campaign so it was a no-go.
(Short Spike)
Why do so many Americans think that every fucking confrontation has to involve bringing a gun? Have you not heard of sorting things out with your fists? What should have just been a punch up resulted in someone needlessly being shot dead. Not every verbal or physical assault is a threat to your life which needs to be neutralised with bullets.
(Old Spike)
I agree if they both brought a stick it would be more enjoyable to watch
(Old Spike)
Who has been lying to you and telling you that this stupid shit is common in America?
(Old Spike)
(Spiker)
They've been re-arrested with a $250,000 bail because of "public outrage"
They're basically politicial prisoners at this point.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Good for them
(Old Spike)
Why does every one of your comments have up votes and why are Sal's comments being downvoted? No one here should care enough to vote on your conversation.
(Spiker)
You're asking me?
(Old Spike)
Because no one here would upvote you for calling sal a dummy for pointing out you referred to a news report that didn't exist. And no one here other than you would be downvoting sal for arguing with you. It looks weird, which is why I asked.